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re: Phil Jackson: "LeBron needs to takeover like Michael did"
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:57 pm to genro
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:57 pm to genro
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Drazen Petrovic only played 5 NBA seasons, his best year was 22/3/2, never made an All Star team.
In the Hall due to European accomplishment/influence and dying young
from what I know of Petrovic, he deserved to be in based on Euroball alone. Those czec and yugo teams were loaded and he was the best player.
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:57 pm to lsupride87
quote:Don't forget the fur coat.
Joe Namath is in the hall for wearing white cleats and screwing alot of women
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:59 pm to lsupride87
quote:Namath was a Rookie of the Year, 4 time All Star, 2 time league MVP, and the most iconic Super Bowl MVP of all time. His stats and accomplishments were exceptional for his era, the knock on him is a classic example of comparing incomparable eras
Joe Namath is in the hall for wearing white cleats and screwing alot of women
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:59 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
Contradictory, at #2 in NBA Finals scoring average...is Jerry West, who went 1-8 in the Finals while being selfish and taking over and dominating.
You can't beat these modern teams like the Spurs and Warriors with their passing and D rules with one guy trying to score every point.
I like to laugh at Lebron over his finals record, I really do. But I really really laugh when the leagues logo is 1-8 in the finals.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 1:00 pm to genro
quote:All I heard was I am a Bama fan. He was never even a top 5 QB in the league. His popularity allowed him to make pro bowls and the HOF
Namath was a Rookie of the Year, 4 time All Star, 2 time league MVP, and one of the most iconic Super Bowl MVO's of all time. His stats and accomolishments were exceptional for his era, the knock on him is a classic example of comparing incomparable eras
Posted on 6/7/16 at 1:01 pm to RonBurgundy
Final some true analysis on this bumb. And after coaching the guys he has in his career, im pretty sure Phil was being nice with his words.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 1:02 pm to BayouFann
quote:Well said
Final some true analysis on this bumb
Posted on 6/7/16 at 1:03 pm to lsupride87
False. He was top 3 in yards and completion pct both his MVP seasons, and his team was the best in the league
Posted on 6/7/16 at 1:06 pm to genro
quote:In Joe Namaths 13 NFL seasons, he was never once even top 10 in passer rating. That is a joke
False. He was top 3 in yards and completion pct both his MVP seasons, and his team was the best in the league
And only 4 pro bowls in 13 seasons isnt very good.....
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 6/7/16 at 1:07 pm to shel311
...while sipping on some Michelob.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 1:07 pm to RonBurgundy
Sometimes you just have to face the facts.... LeBron can takeover all he wants, they'll still win maybe 1 game.
I love MJ, but he's never faced a team this complete in a Finals.
I love MJ, but he's never faced a team this complete in a Finals.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 1:12 pm to lsupride87
4th in 1968. 3rd in 1969. MVP seasons. But pointless and retroactive because passer rating stat was not even invented until 1973 at the tail end of his career and took several more years to come into widespread use.
He threw a lot of yards and they won games on his gunslinging. He was still somewhat of a pioneer in the passing attack. You would've thought he was good at the time
He threw a lot of yards and they won games on his gunslinging. He was still somewhat of a pioneer in the passing attack. You would've thought he was good at the time
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 6/7/16 at 1:15 pm to genro
quote:He was not top 10 in either of these years
4th in 1968. 3rd in 1969. MVP seasons
1968
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quote:No, it isnt. Look at the list. Tarkenton, Unitas, Starr, Stabler, Staubach consistently dominate Passer rating back then. Joe doesnt crack top 10 ever because he simply wasnt that good
But pointless and retroactive because passer rating stat was not even invented until 1973 at the tail end of his career and took several more years to come into widespread use.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 1:17 pm to genro
quote:
His stats and accomplishments were exceptional for his era,
That's a homer lie about Namath.
I've done all the research. He was middle of the pack against his peers in QB rating, Tds, efficiency, (although he did excel at interceptions.)
Namath is not some revisionist history. It's revisionist to say he was awesome...because, well Bama fan.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 1:17 pm to lsupride87
quote:AFL was not in the NFL in 1968
1968
Posted on 6/7/16 at 1:17 pm to lsupride87
quote:Because he played in the AFL.
He was not top 10 in either of these years
Cant believe we're spending this much time on Namath.
Posted on 6/7/16 at 1:19 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:and yards and wins.
(although he did excel at interceptions.)
Posted on 6/7/16 at 1:21 pm to genro
quote:Excuse me. Combine the NFL and AFL and he is 12th. So not top 10
AFL was not in the NFL in 1968
Posted on 6/7/16 at 1:22 pm to lsupride87
Why would you combine two different leagues with zero common opponents (except for one game- the Super Bowl, which he won)
Posted on 6/7/16 at 1:24 pm to shel311
There was a great analysis done by Pro Football Weekly or some sort...and it was a pure comparison not of today's numbers but solely against your peers...and how much better or worse a modern QB rating would be against your peers. And how we would rate them today if using modern analysis and numbers and stats...like everyone does.
Namath was near the bottom for the 60's and 70's.
Staubach was #1 for his era...by FAR!
Stabler was #2...by FAR!
Then...
Dawson, etc.
Unitas (even an old passed his prime mid-60's Unitas was better than young Namath)
Jurgenson,
Starr
Tarkenton
Lamonica
..........
Earl Morral...
Then...
Joe Namath.
Namath was near the bottom for the 60's and 70's.
Staubach was #1 for his era...by FAR!
Stabler was #2...by FAR!
Then...
Dawson, etc.
Unitas (even an old passed his prime mid-60's Unitas was better than young Namath)
Jurgenson,
Starr
Tarkenton
Lamonica
..........
Earl Morral...
Then...
Joe Namath.
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 1:26 pm
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