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re: PGA Tour to merge with LIV Golf
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:12 pm to ReauxlTide222
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:12 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Can’t believe y’all liked and defended LIV
I think people just liked the drama LIV created, not the actual product they provided. So what's the end result? A bunch of multi-millionaires got richer? What does that do for us fans of the sport? I've been waiting for that answer since this shitshow began.
It's honestly weird. Some of the same people who hate what NIL has done to college sports also simp for LIV. All I want to see is all the best golfers in the world playing on the same tour. How much money they make is completely irrelevant to me. I'm just glad all this nonsense is soon to be over and we can just move on and watch golf tournaments again with everyone playing.
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Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:12 pm to SingleMalt1973
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Monahan on GC right now, was asked about 9/11 Families, it’s like watching someone eat a shite sandwich.
Monahan isn't going to be around much longer. Any confidence PGA Tour loyalists had with him has to be basically gone now. The dude couldn't be a bigger FOS hypocrite
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:16 pm to lsufball19
The more I think about it I agree, they will make him eat the PR shite and then will be gone. He has no ability to lead the players, the guys who left probably all hate him too. He will be highly replaceable here pretty soon
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:16 pm to lsufball19
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If you think Norman's goal is simply to "grow the game of golf worldwide" then you haven't been paying attention the last 30 years
Greg Norman isn’t from America. I would bet his original goal of getting more big golf tournaments world wide was genuine. Perhaps after years of frustration with the PGA Tour execs that he became vindictive towards them. But I can 100% see him having good intentions to bring top professional golf around the globe.
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:20 pm to lsufball19
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The Commissioner of the PGA Tour was in the meeting but the CEO of LIV Golf was not regarding negotiations of a partnership/merger of those two tours.
Jay Monahan is running a so-called charitable business and its tax-exempt business model is structured accordingly. Which sends the power to make these decisions to Monahan as CEO.
LIV Golf is a pro golf pure profit organization whose big daddy is the Governor of LIV Golf. The CEO of the DP and LIV Golf are not created equally in a buy-and-sell scenario with Jay Monahan, which is what this meeting was all about. Buy and sell.
The result? They both are owned now by the Saudis, along with LIV. In the future, the only investor in the DP Tour, LIV Golf Tour, and PGA Tour will be the Saudis. How you think that was ever in Greg Norman's domain as a LIV CEO is beyond me.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:23 pm to lsufball19
quote:Which was what I was posting a ton at the begging.
I think people just liked the drama LIV created, not the actual product they provided.
“Why are you mad at LIV and us posters ,ya clown?”
“Well, I like the PGA Tour and y’all are over here just rooting for bullshite drama” would be my answer every time. It was just a bunch of goobers making fun of us for not wanting LIV to be successful simply so they could make more fun of us. Cool, have fun. But at least be honest.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:24 pm to bamameister
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How you think that was ever in Greg Norman's domain as a LIV CEO is beyond me.
So Greg Norman serves no purpose moving forward right?
Seems like he was just the face of LIV when they were trying to legitimize it and not a CEO with any sort of bargaining power. Why do they need him at this point?
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:27 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Would you like to snap your finger and half the NFL move to the USFL?
No of course not, it would suck balls. But what the hell does that have to do with anything? A single NFL player does not have the same leverage/value to the NFL that a single golfer has to the PGA Tour. My point was that it was silly to use the NFL as an analogy for this LIV/PGA debate. Nothing more.
I have no dog in this fight and I'm not trying to make a case for either side. I like golf and enjoy watching it but couldn't care less who "won" in this LIV/PGA shite show.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:30 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Can’t believe y’all liked and defended LIV
They must not be very patriotic.
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:30 pm to kjp811
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Ultimately, I don't know how this deal goes forward. Can you sue an organization for being a monopoly and then drop that lawsuit and join them?
Yes. The new plaintiff would have to be another golf league or the government.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:31 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Can’t believe y’all liked and defended LIV
Why? It was a fun watch. And it was more golf.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:31 pm to lsufball19
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So Greg Norman serves no purpose moving forward right?
Look dumbazz, Greg Norman doesn't own LIV Golf. The Governor of LIV Golf Yasir Al-Rumayyan holds the purse strings. Which is the exact executive role that Jay Monahan plays.
You think LIV Golf is going away. Better wait until the dust settles on that one. Greg Norman is still the CEO of LIV Golf and if it's simply reinvented as part of being one of the "aligned" business partners that may not change anytime soon.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:32 pm to bamameister
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Look dumbazz, Greg Norman doesn't own LIV Golf. The Governor of LIV Golf Yasir Al-Rumayyan holds the purse strings. Which is the exact executive role that Jay Monahan plays.
So Greg Norman serves no purpose, right?
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:33 pm to lsufball19
I leave this for those that think Norman is a loser in this.
Quote from Alan Shipnuck who probably knows more about Norman, LIV and all of the stuff going on than just about anyone. And, that is not a real fan of Norman at all.
"This is 30 years in the making for Greg Norman. He's finally gotten the vindication he sought. He's finally gotten the validation from the PGA Tour. Greg's happy!"
"He's been the driver in all of this, and whatever your personal preference or feelings you have about the guy, you have to tip your cap and say his force of will, and his vision he had back in 1994...I mean he has reshaped the sport in a profound way."
Quote from Alan Shipnuck who probably knows more about Norman, LIV and all of the stuff going on than just about anyone. And, that is not a real fan of Norman at all.
"This is 30 years in the making for Greg Norman. He's finally gotten the vindication he sought. He's finally gotten the validation from the PGA Tour. Greg's happy!"
"He's been the driver in all of this, and whatever your personal preference or feelings you have about the guy, you have to tip your cap and say his force of will, and his vision he had back in 1994...I mean he has reshaped the sport in a profound way."
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:34 pm to RedHawk
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They must not be very patriotic
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:37 pm to lsufball19
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So Greg Norman serves no purpose, right?
Just broke the PGA. The governor of LIV Golf is now the executive chairman of the PGA Tour. Norman, with his business model and leverage, created changes on the PGA that have almost doubled purses, shortened the season, created elevated events, and the next season created no cuts on those elevated events.
None of that happens without Greg Norman. I think he should take a bow.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:39 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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I leave this for those that think Norman is a loser in this.
He also said this
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It remains to be seen if he will have an official role in the new consolidated tour—seems doubtful, since he was glaringly absent in today’s announcement
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:39 pm to lsufball19
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I'm just glad all this nonsense is soon to be over and we can just move on and watch golf tournaments again with everyone playing.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:39 pm to BBONDS25
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Why? It was a fun watch. And it was more golf.
Out of all of my golf buddies, you are the first person I've heard say they thought it was a "fun" watch. My golf buddies couldn't stand their coverage and these are guys that were rooting for it to take off.
I get and have always gotten more golf than I can watch without LIV. I do have other things I enjoy to do.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 2:40 pm to bamameister
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Just broke the PGA. The governor of LIV Golf is now the executive chairman of the PGA Tour. Norman, with his business model and leverage, created changes on the PGA that have almost doubled purses, shortened the season, created elevated events, and the next season created no cuts on those elevated events.
None of that happens without Greg Norman. I think he should take a bow.
I could have done all of that with PIF's money.
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