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re: PGA Tour disciplines golfers 'who have decided to turn their backs' on PGA for LIV
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:09 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:09 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:Does WGC have qualification standards?
But you can show up to a WGC now, literally shoot 100 everyday and get points. This is no different.
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:14 pm to shel311
quote:Popcorn
Does WGC have qualification standards?
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:16 pm to lsupride87
I still think it is something that should be easily navigable and not hold up whether they should/shouldn't be allowed points but again, they are all fair points that need to be dealt with before they can be given points.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:19 pm to shel311
quote:
Does WGC have qualification standards?
Yes, but if you go play like shite you still get ranking points so I'm not following the point your trying to make
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:20 pm to RedHawk
quote:
its that the money they are playing with really isn't fair to the PGA Tour or any other golf entity that wanted to start their own tour
I want to be clear—I love the status quo and want it to remain (though I’ve been alive long enough to not be so naive to assume that it will). But what the frick does “fair” have to do with anything? The best international—and American if we’re being honest—aren’t coming over here playing the PGA Tour out of some reverence for the history of the tour or Bobby Jones or whatever—they’re coming because that’s where the prize money has been and where they can make names for themselves by playing on U.S. network tv and being talked about on the Golf Channel to increase their brand where they can command bigger sponsor money.
They’re all mercenaries—it’s just that the the PGA Tour was the best place to get paid and either make generational money or at the very least (for the 50th-100th ranked guys), become multi-millionaires, marry OT9s, travel the world, and live amazing lives that most of us could never dream of. Change is obviously coming. I hope it works out for us fans. And we do still have power with our viewing habits. The LIV isn’t gonna continue to throw this ridiculous money at guys nobody’s ever heard of. And I don’t think there’s anything on the horizon that can legitimately promote—and create—the young stars like U.S. network tv.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:21 pm to shel311
quote:It would take the OWGR changing their system to conform to a newcomer, instead of the logical thing of making LIV conform to the current standards
I still think it is something that should be easily navigable
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:22 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:It's the difference between having to be good enough to play in a tourney and having anyone be able to play a tourney, like someone who has never shot below par in their pro career. It IS a big difference whether you want to recognize it or not.
Yes, but if you go play like shite you still get ranking points so I'm not following the point your trying to make
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:23 pm to shel311
quote:
It's the difference between having to be good enough to play in a tourney and having anyone be able to play a tourney, like someone who has never shot below par in their pro career.
That should be reflected in the SOF though
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:24 pm to lsupride87
lsupride moves goal posts more than liberals.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:26 pm to lsupride87
quote:
It would take the OWGR changing their system to conform to a newcomer, instead of the logical thing of making LIV conform to the current standards
Please outline these standards for us that are ignorant.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:30 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:Sigh
That should be reflected in the SOF though
If piot went to play the RBC, he would get cut and get zero points
If LIV had points, he would get 2
Same SOF
Obtuse is obtuse
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:32 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:Again, RBC had roughly the same SOF as Liv apparently
That should be reflected in the SOF though
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:32 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Sigh
If piot went to play the RBC, he would get cut and get zero points
If LIV had points, he would get 2
Same SOF
You're making everest out of less than any hill. Which is totally in character for you.
The highest piot, who's been a pro for like 3 weeks could get with that strength of field is like 510th. I'll weep for the guy that gets knocked down to 511th
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:33 pm to lsupride87
quote:How much does 2 points really move the needle?
Sigh
If piot went to play the RBC, he would get cut and get zero points
If LIV had points, he would get 2
Same SOF
Obtuse is obtuse
What I mean by that, it certainly still has to be dealt with for the integrity of OWGR.
But if 2 points really isn't much, I'm sure there's a pretty easy workaround for all parties involved. Or main point, it would seem hard to believe that this is the reason why it just can't happen. That can be figured out.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:34 pm to Hot Carl
quote:
I want to be clear—I love the status quo and want it to remain (though I’ve been alive long enough to not be so naive to assume that it will). But what the frick does “fair” have to do with anything? The best international—and American if we’re being honest—aren’t coming over here playing the PGA Tour out of some reverence for the history of the tour or Bobby Jones or whatever—they’re coming because that’s where the prize money has been and where they can make names for themselves by playing on U.S. network tv and being talked about on the Golf Channel to increase their brand where they can command bigger sponsor money.
I love the status quo too. And I never said it has to be fair, but I would respect it a lot more if it was. The PGA Tour has no chance to even defend itself from this onslaught. And I fear in the end, the golf fan will be the one that gets hurt the most.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:34 pm to shel311
quote:But why? Isn’t it far easier just to tell LIV to adjust to conform to how every other major golf league plays?
But if 2 points really isn't much, I'm sure there's a pretty easy workaround for all parties involved. Or main point, it would seem hard to believe that this is the reason why it just can't happen. That can be figured out.
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:36 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Isn’t it far easier just to tell LIV to adjust to conform to how every other major golf league plays?
You keep saying this but it makes no sense
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:43 pm to RedHawk
quote:I think the young developing American golfer gets hurt more than the fan
And I fear in the end, the golf fan will be the one that gets hurt the most.
What does he do with a successful LIV? Instead of Q school and the korn ferrfy, he goes cuts his teeth in Bangladesh and Thailand?
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:49 pm to lsupride87
quote:
I think the young developing American golfer gets hurt more than the fan
What does he do with a successful LIV? Instead of Q school and the korn ferrfy, he goes cuts his teeth in Bangladesh and Thailand?
The amount you've changed your arguement is actually impressive. The mental gymnastics you are able to twist yourself into is truly some deranged shite.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:56 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
You fake more bullshite than any poster
I mentioned “what would be the development of players” compared to things like korn ferry and Q school
And your big bombshell was “Asian tour” and then you swing your little dick around like you said something of value
We know about the Asian tour. We literally talked about it yesterday in reference to what happens to players in the current LIV that get kicked out to make room for the new players coming in. You didn’t say shite that anyone didn’t know
So you want to discuss the actual development of players? What does LIV have planned?
Please use more words than “Asian tour”. There is very defined ways for developing golfers to make it now. Let’s talk about how theywill actually develop future players for LIV. Truth is they have zero fricking plan right now. It isn’t a concern for them
I mentioned “what would be the development of players” compared to things like korn ferry and Q school
And your big bombshell was “Asian tour” and then you swing your little dick around like you said something of value
We know about the Asian tour. We literally talked about it yesterday in reference to what happens to players in the current LIV that get kicked out to make room for the new players coming in. You didn’t say shite that anyone didn’t know
So you want to discuss the actual development of players? What does LIV have planned?
Please use more words than “Asian tour”. There is very defined ways for developing golfers to make it now. Let’s talk about how theywill actually develop future players for LIV. Truth is they have zero fricking plan right now. It isn’t a concern for them
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 4:58 pm
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