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re: Pete Samprass vs Fed

Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:29 pm to
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:29 pm to
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There was nobody in Sampras' era with the physical talent of a guy like Monfils. There are so many guys in tennis now that are 6-6 or so and can run. The athletism on the tour right now is insane. Sampras never had to face that


that doesnt make their game better, just a different style of play
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:29 pm to
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the top 15 guys now would destroy the top 15 guys when sampras played

and sampras never had to go up against as dominant of a single player as nadal was (pre-injury)

that's 3-4 more french titles for sampras




SHUT UP JAKE.
Posted by usc6158
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:29 pm to
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Krajieck and Ivanisovich disagree.



one dimensional players. Guys now are big and athletic with all court games
Posted by usc6158
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:31 pm to
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Agassi when he was on was a better player then Nadal. I think of Nadal as Agassi light. If Andre weren't a dumbass and had actually dedicated his entire career towards tennis his name would be in the conversation with Sampras and Federar. The top 15 players are probably better, I just don't think the 2 - 5 players are as strong today as they were back then.



Nadal is 23 and already has as many majors as Agassi won in his entire career
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:31 pm to
What has Monfils really done? What did Henman really do?

They were names that got close but really never won when needed to. I consider them as athletic as any on the tour but not having the mental game to win. I will give Tsongas and Isner some time to do something right now, but think they will be much like the 2 I mentioned above.
Posted by kfont28
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:32 pm to
The styles of players these days are so different then the players of 10 years ago. serve and volleying cant win you titles anymore. Even at wimbledon since the courts at wimbledon are slower then they use to be
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:32 pm to
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Nadal is 23 and already has as many majors as Agassi won in his entire career


And Agassi spent half his career not giving a shite about tennis. I did mention that in my statement.
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:33 pm to
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the top 15 guys now would destroy the top 15 guys when sampras played


This is so false it is ridiculous. SFP you know nothing about tennis. I have been watching tennis on a religios basis since the mid-seventies. I have been to three US Open Finals and one Wimbledon Final. The best tennis player I have ever seen is Roger Federer, followed by John McEnroe. Stick to your supposed expertise.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:34 pm to
The balls at Wimbledon are also heavier.
Posted by kfont28
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:34 pm to
Nadal is a better all around player then agassi. Agassi was a great return guy but he couldnt handle nadal's speed and spin. the only court agassi would be a little better on is grass
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:35 pm to
Agassi at his best takes Nadal on the hard courts too IMO. I do think Nadal probably has the highest A game at the French.
Posted by MStreetTiger
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:35 pm to
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the top 15 guys now would destroy the top 15 guys when sampras played

and sampras never had to go up against as dominant of a single player as nadal was (pre-injury)

that's 3-4 more french titles for sampras


I have to agree with SFP on this one.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:36 pm to
Agassi was a better hard court player without a doubt. Nadal is an average hard court player. On clay or grass, Nadal would beat the living shite out of him.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:37 pm to
Would Nadal beat a healthy Gustavo Kuerten at Roland Garros or in his prime Thomas Muster?

I dont think so, but it would be a great 4:30 to 5:00 match.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:38 pm to
I don't know about grass man. I think Agassi beats him there too. Hell, on clay is where Agassi should have actually been the best, for some reason he didn't put it together like everyone thought he would there.
Posted by glassman
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:38 pm to
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I have to agree with SFP on this one.


You have never seen the best of the best play live. Your opinion means nothing.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:39 pm to
Kuerton would give him a hell of a match, I'd say that.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:39 pm to
Guga was my favorite player back in the day, but Nadal would rail him. Nadal's heavy ball would overwhelm Guga
Posted by kfont28
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:40 pm to
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Would Nadal beat a healthy Gustavo Kuerten at Roland Garros

Yes Nadal easily Kuerten could have been amazing but nadal if he can stay healthy could be one of the greatest clay players ever
Posted by bigt41
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/31/10 at 7:41 pm to
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Would Nadal beat a healthy Gustavo Kuerten at Roland Garros or in his prime Thomas Muster?

I dont think so, but it would be a great 4:30 to 5:00 match.


nadal would beat anyone on clay
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