re: Perfect Case in this Article for Why Joe Paterno should resign/be fired

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everyone in this thread is ready to crucify Paterno over this.

there have been maybe 3 posts about McQueary and a few on the AD and VP.

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for the record, I said that Penn State needs to can everyone who had any knowledge whatsoever. From the top to the bottom, completely clean house.

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but anyone that spends time around older folks knows how age can affect their lives and decisions.

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just when i think you can't be any dumber...

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everyone in this thread is ready to crucify Paterno over this.

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The situation is filled with awful people. That doesn't excuse Paterno for his inaction over the years. He deserves every bit of blame he's getting.

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McQuery met with head of campus police

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Who then covered it up.

At that point, he should have gone to the real police.

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bayou bengal

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ight i'll look for it later

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slackhouse

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like i said joe pa wasn't the main culprit in this, he is guilty but being forced to step down through resignation should absolutely be enough. if he really is that guilty it will come out after time and no matter whether he was fired, he resigns, or retires his reputation will be forever tarnished.

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Nittany Lion

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in all fairness i left because UGA was a better fit for me and i had grown up always wanting to go to georgia. the tuition along with the distance, weather, and my longing for some bulldog football all helped me leave. i loved PSU though, great campus, tradition, and town. i want to go back to get my MBA because the school was that good to me but you're right. people are being denied a great education because they can't run a 45,000 person university as well as some run their 20,000 person schools. i remember when we couldn't get a snow day when all 16 other campuses got off including altoona because they said that when PSU UP ever cancelled a class that they would lose around $800,000 in salaries and other various costs.

it's tragic because i am at UGA now and both schools are practically identical in curriculum and difficulty and classes but it is easy to tell that PSU had the more organized school, campus, and general way of doing things. i also think Smeal way out does Terry. however, UGA has spent wisely and PSU hasn't so a school like UGA that fails at things that matter like education are moving up while PSU is floundering because as you said they can't budget even the simplest things. PSU deserves more than they are getting in both athletics and their school. i feel for PSU because while there i see how close our schools are. our football programs should have done more by now, our school is run by slimy presidents who live off of other successes (adams lives purely off the HOPE scholarship making UGA a school worth a shite), and that both schools could use a serious internal revamping

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Im talking about them all. They all have to go.

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As am I.

Actually, I've not seen anyone who is saying to get rid of Paterno while not getting rid of anyone else.

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you called Joe Pa's actions EQUAL to those of McQueary, the man who witnessed the actions first hand!!!! enough said! you know what I mean exactly

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I backed off that a little. But how is what either of them different. They both knew and did nothing.

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Didn't you even say yourself that campus police were called? Although I guess the response will be that they "aren't the real police."

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They aren't the real police, because the guy who runs their organization COVERED THE SITUATION UP, and that's why he turned himself in today.

McQuery should have gone to the real police, those with no ties to PSU, when the campus police did nothing.

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Sure, and people have turned themselves in and been indicted for that, have they not? But JoePa hasn't. Maybe what you speculate is spot on. But the problem is maybe it's not. Forgive me if I won't throw JP into the mud over mindless speculation. If concrete shite comes out that JP was directly involved and he did bad things, then that's fine..frick him. But until then, it's all speculation, and that's dangerous.

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It's completely unreasonable to assume that JoePa had nothing to do with all this.

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It certainly seems that protecting careers was more important than stopping this criminal activity.



Yep. And it seems that many people on this thread believe that sort of thing is perfectly justifiable.

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Yep, as long as your own arse is covered along the chain of command.

It's not about that, it's about doing the right thing and the right thing is to make sure nothing happens from that point on. Going to authorities who could ensure that occurred would have been the right thing to do.