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re: Pat Dye's comments

Posted on 10/8/13 at 11:32 pm to
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/8/13 at 11:32 pm to
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BCS >>>>>>>>> committee


FIFY
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/8/13 at 11:33 pm to
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"All she knows about football is what somebody told her," Dye said. "Or what she read in a book, or what she saw on television


Dye is a fricking dinosaur.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 10/8/13 at 11:35 pm to
Are we sure Dye isn't just being an Auburn guy hating Bama?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 10/8/13 at 11:48 pm to
how could this be an auburn guy hating bama?

unless condie actually is bias
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/8/13 at 11:53 pm to
I don't think it's necessary that the committee members be former college football players, and I would also be open to the idea of women on the committee, but I would require that each member had spent at least a significant part his/her live immersed in football in some capacity. If the committee had chosen Sarah Thomas, I doubt there would be as much backlash as their is with Rice.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
AL
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 10/8/13 at 11:58 pm to
I don't understand why the bcs couldn't just pick the top 4 teams.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/9/13 at 12:05 am to
I agree. The BCS rankings are a lot more transparent than any possible selection committee.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 12:05 am to
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but I would require that each member had spent at least a significant part his/her live immersed in football in some capacity.
It's way more important to be good at math than to know anything at all about football here. 125 teams playing 12 apiece presents a challenge with a small sample size, and to get close to "solving" the problem, the actual sport being played is irrelevant. Whether it's people or computers doing the selecting, football knowledge means nothing, and math knowledge means everything.
This post was edited on 10/9/13 at 12:06 am
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 12:06 am to
Pat Dye knows what is up actually.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 12:09 am to
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It's way more important to be good at math than to know anything at all about football here. 125 teams playing 12 apiece presents a challenge with a small sample size, and to get close to "solving" the problem, the actual sport being played is irrelevant. Whether it's people or computers doing the selecting, football knowledge means nothing, and math knowledge means everything.

I don't think the committee members will be expected to create their own algorithm, rather they will be expected select teams based on the eyeball test, which is why football knowledge matters.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 12:29 am to
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eyeball test
That is, their bias.

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. :windmill:
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 12:52 am to
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It's way more important to be good at math than to know anything at all about football here. 125 teams playing 12 apiece presents a challenge with a small sample size, and to get close to "solving" the problem, the actual sport being played is irrelevant. Whether it's people or computers doing the selecting, football knowledge means nothing, and math knowledge means everything.



lol. you think the people choosing the 4 teams will use some,if any, type of math formula?
Posted by Hoyas
Member since Sep 2013
2478 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 1:07 am to
Pat Dye is a racist pig...

Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61861 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 1:17 am to
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She grew up in Birmingham on Dynamite Hill, not Tuscaloosa


bullshite. The family moved to Tuscaloosa when she was 11.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 1:43 am to
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lol. you think the people choosing the 4 teams will use some,if any, type of math formula?
Of course not.

That is to say, I believe that the committee will discuss some computer rankings and have them readily available, but unfortunately I don't think any of them will be doing any math themselves. And that's obviously a problem. It's either math or bias. One is good, and the other has been the problem for decades.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12969 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 7:20 am to
Rice is the perfect storm for Dye's disgust: a black, female Bama fan. Only thing that would be worse is if she was gay too.
Oh, wait.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
44849 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 7:28 am to
I agree with him. I would prefer people who actually watch and know college football. I dont care that she's black or female.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 7:29 am to
If it is going to be a nationl committee, it must look like the USA. Now we have to figure out which network to host the show in prime time with rockets going off between each selection.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7109 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 7:33 am to
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I would prefer people who actually watch and know college football


And you know that she doesn't have this information? I'll be honest, I have no clue what her knowledge or interest level is. But far to often people act like football requires this higher level understanding.

It just isn't that complicated.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
22822 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 7:36 am to
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The audio of his comments come off so bad LINK


Agree. He sounds like a senile drunk old redneck.

If you didn't know his name was Pat Dye, he would sound like just another Finebaum caller.
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