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re: Pablo Torre Finds Smoking Gun re: Ballmer and Kawhi?

Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:27 am to
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:27 am to
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s I recall, Ballmer also invested 50 million in Aspiration shortly before the deal, and the size of Aspiration's deal with Kawhi was 48 million

Yup, 28M per his “endorsement” deal and 20M in (now worthless) stocks.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:44 am to
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Well no shite the accuser has the burden of proof




When has that ever been the standard for a sports league?
Posted by JetsetNuggs
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 9:53 am to
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That’s damned good investigative journalism


He's a little weasel but he's good at what he does

He's like Randle Weems from Recess

Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:07 am to
Pablo’s jersey is going in the rafters after these last few months
Posted by B1rdman15
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:56 am to
Pablo will likely win a Peabody this year
Posted by VA LSU fan
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 12:31 pm to
It’s becoming more and more clear this was for cap circumvention.

The only other owner wiring an amount to cover KL2 Aspire payment know shows they knew.

Even if they did not set it up, it is now clear the Clippers knew about it and hid it from the NBA. That is giving the Clippers a massive benefit of doubt. It seems more likely this was an uncle Dennis payoff that went wrong due to bankruptcy.

Kawai, Balmer, and others should be suspended a year and the effective cap of the Clippers should be reduced by 20% for a five year period.

Uncle Dennis needs a lifetime ban. Too many instances in his past of doing things the NBA does not allow.

That and a $29,000,000 fine paid to each other team’s charity of choice.

Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 1:59 pm to
Pablo really do be finding out
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:28 pm to
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The source of that 2M investment? Dennis Wong
recall that one of mark cuban's arguments to pablo torre was that if someone like ballmer, with his resources, had indeed used a third party to funnel the money, and he knew that that third party could fail and thus expose records, he would have immediately invested more money to keep that from happening
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:46 pm to
reporting from the toronto newspaper about demands kawhi made of the reptors back during his free agency

quote:

Basically, this story is a test of both people’s intelligence, and of the NBA itself. As the Star reported this week, Leonard’s uncle Dennis Robertson asked the Toronto Raptors for the same set of perks in 2019 that Leonard was receiving from the Clippers in 2021: lucrative no-show sponsorships, and ownership stakes in outside companies. (Robertson, who had not done his research, presumed the Toronto Maple Leafs were an outside company, and asked for a piece.) So Leonard asked that of the Raptors, looks like he got it from the Clippers, and because the vehicle was a company that was more or less a cardboard box painted green and left in the rain, the whole thing went belly-up and just enough of the arrangement was exposed. This is smoke, and fire.
lucrative no-show sponsorships (check) and equity in outside companies (check)
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:51 pm to
I bet this would have never seen the light of day, but when Aspiration went up in flames, Balmer and Co. probably told Uncle Dennis not to do anything stupid and file a creditor's claim in federal court.


Uncle Dennis prob said frick that we ain't getting left out.

You see it frequently. The sham is going smoothly until for one reason or another there's a bump in the road, and the one with less to lose blows the thing up intentionally or not.


Posted by Lexis Dad
Member since Apr 2025
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 4:13 pm to
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That’s damned good investigative journalism

Aside from Wickersham, he's the best sports investigative reporter there is
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 4:22 pm to
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when Aspiration went up in flames, Balmer and Co. probably told Uncle Dennis not to do anything stupid and file a creditor's claim in federal court.

sounds good, doesnt work
if the reporting is true, that money was owed to leonard by the clippers, not aspiration, for services rendered to the clippers, not aspiration. uncle dennis wanted his money, money that was (allegedly) agreed to in writing (via the sponsorship deal). at that point ballmer should have known what he was dealing with and come up with something else to shut him up
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 4:23 pm to
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recall that one of mark cuban's arguments to pablo torre was that if someone like ballmer, with his resources, had indeed used a third party to funnel the money, and he knew that that third party could fail and thus expose records, he would have immediately invested more money to keep that from happening

While this thought crossed my mind, 2M would just be pissing into the wind at that point. They needed waaaaaay more to keep them solvent.

But it’s damn near the perfect amount if you wanted to funnel some money to a certain “fun guy.”
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 4:38 pm to
why not just give the money to uncle dennis? like, literally in a brown paper bag?
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 4:44 pm to
by the way, you really have to admire the balls on pablo torre. he certainly had those bank records when he did the first report. maybe he missed it, maybe not. but the outgoing wires to KL were easy to spot. i'd like to believe he held on to this just to see what the clippers/ballmer would say first.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 4:52 pm to
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why not just give the money to uncle dennis? like, literally in a brown paper bag?

Hell, you can ask that same question about all of this. I think they thought they just had a nice system here
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 4:54 pm to
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by the way, you really have to admire the balls on pablo torre. he certainly had those bank records when he did the first report. maybe he missed it, maybe not. but the outgoing wires to KL were easy to spot. i'd like to believe he held on to this just to see what the clippers/ballmer would say first.

Oh this was 1000% planned and intentional. Literally hours after the NBA’s Board of Governors meeting? I’m sure he wanted to see if he could get any comments from the NBA and others on the record prior to this second release.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:06 pm to
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I think they thought they just had a nice system here
amin elhassen’s comment was apt…if all you have to do to funnel 50MM to your star player is have the owner launder the money thru a sponsor, all bets are off. Assuming the clippers get off easy with this, every other team will do it until it’s explicitly addressed in a new CBA

“lack of institutional control” language would be next
This post was edited on 9/11/25 at 6:08 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:18 pm to
Clippers are irrelvant - DEI Doctor says
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:19 pm to
He will just buy the NBA

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