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re: Ohio State AD says recruits are asking for 5K just to visit the school
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:49 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:49 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:That's a different question from above.
Guess we'll find out if a publicly known $5k appearance fee for some high school kid to visit a campus becomes a thing. Is that detailed enough for you?
All of that is already a thing, minus the public part. And it's been a thing since before NIL.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:54 pm to shel311
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That's a different question from above. All of that is already a thing, minus the public part. And it's been a thing since before NIL.
Yea idk where lunch is going with this lol
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:56 pm to Big Scrub TX
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What, exactly, would be the problem with this? For one thing, it's tiny money in the grand scheme. How many total recruits does one school bring on campus per season - 100 max?
You think 500k is tiny money just to even get a chance to maybe have the player consider your school. On top of all the other money they are already spending on these guys.
Every kid would take as many visits as possible to any and every school, even ones they for sure dont want to go to. Just to get paid.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:57 pm to More beer please
No one is forcing the schools to pay
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:10 pm to Big Scrub TX
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. How many total recruits does one school bring on campus per season - 100 max?
So 500k to get some 17 year old kids to walk on campus for a visit that is already paid for isnt a problem.
Seems like people think some of these entities just have endless amounts of money.
At what point in this does the word extortion get thrown around?
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:11 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:He argued it's amazing we aren't more concerned about these raising prices, then insinuated this thing is not even happening.
Yea idk where lunch is going with this lol
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:13 pm to Deactived
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So 500k to get some 17 year old kids to walk on campus for a visit that is already paid for isnt a problem.
If it’s a problem then just don’t pay. What’s the issue?
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:14 pm to More beer please
quote:I believe A&M made $85mil last season in revenues for an example, so yes that is a tiny amount.
You think 500k is tiny money just to even get a chance to maybe have the player consider your school. On top of all the other money they are already spending on these guys.
Also, I know you're just responding to the initial post as it was posted, but you're not needing to pay every single player you bring in for a visit that amount, so the 100 recruits at $5k the other poster gave as the example isn't accurate, so it's actually nowhere near $500k.
quote:As said above, every kid isn't getting that for every visit.
Every kid would take as many visits as possible to any and every school, even ones they for sure dont want to go to. Just to get paid.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:16 pm to Deactived
quote:This number is wildly an incorrect assumption.
So 500k
quote:What exactly is the problem?
some 17 year old kids to walk on campus for a visit that is already paid for isnt a problem.
quote:Not in the literal sense, but in the sense of paying for visits, they certainly do. See what they pay coaches, and how many schools are paying 2 or even 3 coaches at 1 time after they keep firing them.
Seems like people think some of these entities just have endless amounts of money.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:23 pm to shel311
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I believe A&M made $85mil last season in revenues for an example, so yes that is a tiny amount.
Hasnt most of their money collected lately towards their stadium so the numbers have been very inflated? I thought I read that on the secrant from an A&M guy.
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so the 100 recruits at $5k the other poster gave as the example isn't accurate, so it's actually nowhere near $500k.
Lets pretend its legal. Is it? Every player 4 star on up will start doing this. These are low income families for the most part and their handlers are probably more scummy than they have every been since its all out in the open
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:26 pm to Deactived
quote:Not sure, you could be right. Main point being, these schools have plenty enough money for this. They're making millions in profits, whether its' right or wrong can be argued, but I don't think we can argue whether they can afford it, they can.
Hasnt most of their money collected lately towards their stadium so the numbers have been very inflated? I thought I read that on the secrant from an A&M guy.
quote:We don't know this.
Lets pretend its legal. Is it? Every player 4 star on up will start doing this
But if you're a long shot to get a player and he wants money to come for a visit, you just don't give him a visit. So that 100 recruit guess would go down drastically as you'd only pay players you felt good about getting.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:29 pm to Big Scrub TX
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It's amazing to me that people are so resistant to the truth. ANYTHING to have the money go ANYWHERE except the kids with the bodies bringing in the revenue.
The fans are the center of gravity in CFB, not the players.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:32 pm to LNCHBOX
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How about you give me a compelling reason why a recruits should be paid a fee on top of getting a free visit to a campus?
Cause someone is dumb enough to pay it
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:55 pm to Deactived
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Every player 4 star on up will start doing this. These are low income families for the most part and their handlers are probably more scummy than they have every been since its all out in the open
So?
Don’t pay it if you don’t want to.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:20 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Can you blame them? You've got true freshmen who are riding the bench and still making 6 figures a MONTH in NIL.
Yes, I absolutely can blame them. You know what the difference is between them and the true freshmen bench riders that are making bank? The freshmen have already committed, signed, enrolled, practiced, and are going to class and meetings, and the other things football players at that level have to do.
I cannot imagine the absolute balls on a 16-17 year-old kid to actually ask whoever he’d have to ask (HC, position coach, AD, recruiting coordinator, some other ancillary admin staffer who’d have to relay it to the DM) if they wouldn’t be too terribly bothered if he extorted them for 5 grand for gracing their beautiful campus and 150-year-old research University with an endowment of over $7 billion and one of the biggest student bodies and alumni bases in the Western World with the honor of his presence. Who was that 1st motherfricker and how big were his balls?
But more than that, who was the 1st dumb motherfricker(s) who actually said “yes?” The slope is slippery enough—anybody with eyes can see that—but this is like cutting that slope down to 89 degrees and lubing it up with a KY waterfall. frick that person/people even more than the kids. It just emboldened them. And this is not me being some old man yelling at clouds about “in my day…”
We all knew that NIL would turn into pay to play the second it was allowed. But paying for a visit—actually, that’s not even what this is—it’s getting extorted for a visit and unwillingly paying it, giving even more leverage to the kids and taking more authority away from the adults—is more than a bridge too far. If a 16-year-old Jr (or his parent or handler) had the balls to preemptively ask for a visit fee, that player is 100% gonna wind up being a pain in the arse at some point for someone who already has enough pains in their arse. If the practice is in place and Ohio State proactively offers $5k, that’s different. I’d take it. No problem with the kids taking it. But it’s the asking or maybe even demanding at this point that simply will not stand.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:22 pm to Hot Carl
Yall mfs need to learn the definition of extortion lmao.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:30 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Yall mfs need to learn the definition of extortion lmao.
Nah, I’m good, I know what it means. This is not the legal definition of extortion that would be deemed criminal, but perhaps you need to learn that humans communicate with language to express ideas and words sometimes morph into slightly different meanings than aren’t necessarily their exact Oxford English Dictionary or in this case, their technical definitions in law texts. As adults, most of us have read and spoken enough to be able to use context to understand their different usages.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:41 pm to POTUS2024
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The fans are the center of gravity in CFB, not the players.
No one would pay to watch “average” students play football
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it’s getting extorted for a visit and unwillingly paying it
Schools are free not to pay for recruits to visit… but then they might not have a chance to recruit the best players if they make that choice
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:49 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:I know if someone contacted me for a job interview, and I knew I could get them to pay me $5k and it would not hurt my chances of being hired, I definitely would NOT ask for that $5k out of the goodness of my heart because it would be the right thing to do, amirite?
Yall mfs need to learn the definition of extortion lmao.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 4:49 pm to Hot Carl
Sorry for wanting words to carry their actual meaning. You must be a leftist. Carry on.
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