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re: Odds are that an 11-5 NFC team will be left out for the first time

Posted on 12/9/14 at 9:31 am to
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 9:31 am to
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Really hope it's SEA that misses out.


This
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17336 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 9:46 am to
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hope the Lions go 11-5 and don't get in


Good luck with that...if the Lions are 11-5, they're in.
Posted by LSU Piston
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 9:48 am to
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I hope the Lions go 11-5 and don't get in


wut

Lions own the tiebreaker with Dallas and Philly (conference record).

If Detroit goes 11-5, they in.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 10:00 am to
Disagree. I think it's perfect, and as God is my witness, I've always argued this.

If you go 11-5 and don't win your division, it's because someone else did, and they had to play your good arse twice en route. It is good to reward them by putting your not as good arse through a gauntlet if you want a third crack at them. So you have to go on the road. But, since you are pretty good and proved it, we'll send you on the road to the easiest place possible. How's a 6-10 opponent sound to you? Good? Enjoy.

This post was edited on 12/9/14 at 10:01 am
Posted by LSUTigers1986
Member since Mar 2014
1336 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 10:31 am to
I can't wait for the meltdown when the 6-10 Saints or Falcons host the 11-5 Cowboys or Seahawks.
Posted by RedMustang
Member since Oct 2011
6910 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 10:51 am to
I hate the Cowboys with a passion, but if they go 11-5 and miss the playoffs, it's a guarantee that the NFL will take more playoffs in the future.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36676 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 10:57 am to
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You win the division, you prove yourself as the best team out of four teams in a 16 team conference with a 6 team playoff format. There is very little more fair than that.

People are ignoring that all of the entire NFC South's teams being really shitty is not normal and but they are still a part of a 16 team conference competing against 12 other teams and the best team out of those 4 teams deserve to be rewarded.



Within reason I could agree with you, but when the winner of a division isn't above .500 that logic falls apart.

A winner of a division deserves some benefit of the doubt if everything else were equal, but when an entire division does poorly in out of division play (as is the case when the winner is not even .500) the division as a whole is suspect and forfeits their right to a representative IMO.

The premise of awarding every division winner deserving a playoff bid is that schedules are unequal and you can't always determine the relative quality of different divisions. The schedules are indeed likely unequal when a sub .500 team wins a division, but they are mostly unequal because theirs was weaker (and less deserving of a playoff bid).
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
31622 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:50 am to
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Disagree. I think it's perfect, and as God is my witness, I've always argued this.

If you go 11-5 and don't win your division, it's because someone else did, and they had to play your good arse twice en route. It is good to reward them by putting your not as good arse through a gauntlet if you want a third crack at them. So you have to go on the road. But, since you are pretty good and proved it, we'll send you on the road to the easiest place possible. How's a 6-10 opponent sound to you? Good? Enjoy.


Nailed it.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
34042 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 1:24 pm to
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I can't wait for the meltdown when the 6-10 Saints or Falcons host the 11-5 Cowboys or Seahawks.



People need to realize it's cyclical. It's not that hard to remember a time when the NFC west was absolutely abysmal and the south was great.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
19834 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 1:36 pm to
Roger Goodell's Response:

"The true solution to this dilemma is to add an NFL team in London. Now please enjoy this video:"

Cuts to a white screen until a face appears:

"One more," Chris Carter.
"One more," Eli Manning.
This post was edited on 12/9/14 at 1:37 pm
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