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re: Notre Dame's Kelly must go?
Posted on 10/29/10 at 4:37 pm to ST.TAMMANYTIGER
Posted on 10/29/10 at 4:37 pm to ST.TAMMANYTIGER
It was a terrible accident. No doubt. It's a question of negligence. He's at work. Every job has safety rules in place. Ask anybody who works at a plant, there are rules and regulations about safety everywhere. I do have to question why he stayed up there, but there's got to be a supervisor there who's ultimately responsible for the video crew. Whoever that is, didn't do their job and there was a horrible consequence.
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Posted on 10/29/10 at 4:40 pm to ST.TAMMANYTIGER
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The problem with this country
I would submit that the problem with this country lies more with the people who are constantly bitching about the problem with this country.
And what exactly are you expecting the student to do? Tell Kelly, "Sorry, coach. No film today. The wind's too high." ? Seriously, how many students would have the balls to do that?
Posted on 10/29/10 at 4:43 pm to JudgeBoyett
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And what exactly are you expecting the student to do? Tell Kelly, "Sorry, coach. No film today. The wind's too high." ? Seriously, how many students would have the balls to do that?
Pretty much.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 4:43 pm to JudgeBoyett
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Seriously, how many students would have the balls to do that?
Ones that value their life.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 4:45 pm to JudgeBoyett
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And what exactly are you expecting the student to do? Tell Kelly, "Sorry, coach. No film today. The wind's too high." ? Seriously, how many students would have the balls to do that?
Exactly. Plus someone else would have just taken his place.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 4:47 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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Ones that value their life.
Hindsight is always 20/20. I'm sure the guy didn't go up there knowing full well he had a chance of dying. Yeah he posted stuff on twitter, but you can't tell how serious he was being. Comments seemed light hearted at the time and you only think he was being serious because he died.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 4:50 pm to GoldenSombrero
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Hindsight is always 20/20. I'm sure the guy didn't go up there knowing full well he had a chance of dying. Yeah he posted stuff on twitter, but you can't tell how serious he was being. Comments seemed light hearted at the time and you only think he was being serious because he died.
Perhaps. And my opinion is coming from someone who is scared shitless of heights. You stick me 10 feet up on on a ladder, and my legs would shake. Personally, I don't care who it was. I would have told them to kiss my arse in a heartbeat, especially over a minimum wage paying gig.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 4:51 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
I think the civil suit will be enough to punish Notre Dame.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 5:03 pm to TheJones
Someone needs to take responsibility. However, Whitlock is a racist arse.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 5:24 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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It didn't for the kid. I hate that he died, but if that was me, I'd have told the coach to eff off.
I once pissed my pants when I was around 15 or so in the film room. Asked a coach by the door twice to go piss and the **** said no both times. Luckily I was seated in the back and had my bags with me. NO ONE found out.
Man did I feel weird and lucky at the same time. But also afterward I wish I would have bashed his face in, not just ignore him and bust through the door. Case in point, it's easy to say a kid should have done something after the fact. frick Brian Kelly. Most football coaches are incredibly pompous and should be held accountable.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 5:26 pm to TheJones
This is going to be one really ugly situation, mostly due to the pending lawsuit that could be in the 20 million range. Kelly is not going to take responsibility because he will be a party in the suit along with ND. If ND fires Kelly, it implies that ND and Kelly were at fault. The situation only gets worse with the losses accumulating.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 5:31 pm to JudgeBoyett
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And what exactly are you expecting the student to do? Tell Kelly, "Sorry, coach. No film today. The wind's too high." ? Seriously, how many students would have the balls to do that?
so he will be in the darwin award running because he didn't have any balls?
Posted on 10/29/10 at 5:32 pm to richmondtyger
Things are still being sorted out and from what little information that has been released, we don't have all of the facts. However we do know for a fact the young man knew he was in a risky situation-thats it. Now it remains to be seen if he was forced to get up there and who instructed him to do so. One of the reports stated it was his"passion" to go that extra mile that may have cost him his life. If that lift has clear warnings on it about use during high winds and in this litigious soceity I wouldn't see why, than everyone involved should have known better. We just have to wait and let everything sort out.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 5:35 pm to StarkvilleTigerFan
ND apparently has been cursed since about 1990. Probably the devil getting payback for '66 and all that other lucky Irish shite throughout history.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 5:50 pm to ottothewise
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I think the civil suit will be enough to punish Notre Dame.
Was the student an employee of the university, and being paid for filming? If so, winning a civil suit will be extremely difficult, and his family's remedy would be workers compensation survivor benefits.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 6:04 pm to guy4lsu
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he is still just a young kid
Apparently he was 20. We need to stop treating college students like they're in middle school. Seriously.
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When your the head coach of a major program making that much money you are in charge of every single thing that goes on around that football field.
This would be considered a logical fallacy. Appeal to fiscal class. I'll feel free to disregard the rest of your posts on this matter. Thanks for playing.
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in the end it falls under [Kelly's] responsibilty
Link? Goddamn, people. I'm not saying someone shouldn't be held accountable, but get some fricking information to back up the allegations you're throwing around. I'm not even past the first page of this thread and it's already fricking ridiculous.
This post was edited on 10/29/10 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 10/29/10 at 6:33 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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You stick me 10 feet up on on a ladder, and my legs would shake. Personally, I don't care who it was. I would have told them to kiss my arse in a heartbeat, especially over a minimum wage paying gig.
I know what you mean. I've been terrified of heights ever since I was a kid and almost killed myself -- playing like I was Tarzan.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 6:33 pm to cyde
I'm sorry, but just brushing this off as "just a terrible accident" is not good enough. someone is to blame here.
it is assumed by all parties involved that every practice has to get filmed, that's why they pay a salary to a video guy who hires a staff of students to film. they never just show up and say "nah, we're not filming practice today."
there is a daily decision, which ultimately is made by the head coach whether the team is practicing inside or outside (assuming the team has an indoor, which ND does). typically, the sole determinant of this decision is the weather. if there is bad weather, you go inside because it puts your staff and players in danger.
clearly, the weather was a hazard for the video guys up on the lifts, but this was ignored by whoever made the decision to go outside, more than likely kelly's decision. maybe he was given bad advice. maybe the head video guy told him he didn't think it was too windy. either way, it's someone's decision which basically forces those guys up there in that wind, because they are just doing a job. maybe the kid should have had the balls to just come down in the middle of practice and take the arse chewing and possibly firing that would have followed, but he should have never been put in that position in the first place, and for that, it is someone's fault other than the kid.
it is assumed by all parties involved that every practice has to get filmed, that's why they pay a salary to a video guy who hires a staff of students to film. they never just show up and say "nah, we're not filming practice today."
there is a daily decision, which ultimately is made by the head coach whether the team is practicing inside or outside (assuming the team has an indoor, which ND does). typically, the sole determinant of this decision is the weather. if there is bad weather, you go inside because it puts your staff and players in danger.
clearly, the weather was a hazard for the video guys up on the lifts, but this was ignored by whoever made the decision to go outside, more than likely kelly's decision. maybe he was given bad advice. maybe the head video guy told him he didn't think it was too windy. either way, it's someone's decision which basically forces those guys up there in that wind, because they are just doing a job. maybe the kid should have had the balls to just come down in the middle of practice and take the arse chewing and possibly firing that would have followed, but he should have never been put in that position in the first place, and for that, it is someone's fault other than the kid.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 6:35 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
This whole 'the coach is the CEO' thing is overblown. Unless Kelly had the option not to put the kid up in the lift and did it anyway, it's not firing worthy.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 6:44 pm to lob1284
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(Posted on 10/29/10 at 6:33 p.m. to cyde)
If you weren't talking to me, disregard the text below.
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I'm sorry, but just brushing this off as "just a terrible accident" is not good enough.
Put words in your own mouth, not mine. Thanks.
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someone is to blame here.
Did you even bother to read my entire fricking post? Tell you what. You go do that and get back to me, and I'll bother reading any more of yours.
Moving right along...
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This whole 'the coach is the CEO' thing is overblown.
This. The coach is being paid a lot of money to do exactly that -- coach. He isn't being paid to run the entire school. If they have an A/V department, that might be a good place to start looking.
This post was edited on 10/29/10 at 6:49 pm
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