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Posted on 12/5/13 at 2:17 pm to the808bass
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the808bass
You're digging deep into something thats already been done..
Again. SHE doesnt remember well about the events. It damages any chance of a conspiracy imo. If she's not consistent with what happened then..
Posted on 12/5/13 at 2:17 pm to the808bass
After scanning the released documents, it is clear that the DA could never bring a case like this to a jury.
Coming to a definitive conclusion as to whether an assault occurred or not is difficult, but Casher's testimony is more consistent and believable imo than the alleged victim's. I'm leaning towards the conclusion that no assault occurred leaving open the possibility that it did, but the evidence is clearly stacked against a conviction. In fact, it is unlikely, based on these reports, that the alleged victim could even come close to meeting the lower standard of a civil case that an assault more likely than not occurred.
Coming to a definitive conclusion as to whether an assault occurred or not is difficult, but Casher's testimony is more consistent and believable imo than the alleged victim's. I'm leaning towards the conclusion that no assault occurred leaving open the possibility that it did, but the evidence is clearly stacked against a conviction. In fact, it is unlikely, based on these reports, that the alleged victim could even come close to meeting the lower standard of a civil case that an assault more likely than not occurred.
This post was edited on 12/5/13 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 12/5/13 at 2:17 pm to saintsfan22
I take the inconsistencies in her story far more seriously than a witness prepared by FSU's attorney.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 2:18 pm to saintsfan22
quote:
Did you miss
Well, that is JWs roommate. Who also admitted to going in to have sex with her too, but JW left with her on the scooter
Posted on 12/5/13 at 2:19 pm to the808bass
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I take the inconsistencies in her story far more seriously than a witness prepared by FSU's attorney.
Fair.
But she doesnt deny that others were there...which gives credence to his story.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 2:19 pm to League Champs
quote:
League Champs
What are your thoughts on Willie Meggs?
Posted on 12/5/13 at 2:19 pm to Rittdog
quote:Oh no, I completely agree, I'm just saying I know there are gonna be alot of people saying shes a liar because she's a whore and using the bj to prove it. But thats not the proof, the proof would be if the roommates comments are accurate when he said she was willing
Why would she take off her clothes to just give a BJ?
Not being insensitive. But I'm thinking she agreed to have sex..
Posted on 12/5/13 at 2:20 pm to League Champs
Yeah, what's the old saying "Snitches get ditches". I highly doubt the friend and roommate would say anything damaging, regardless of what went on that night. Especially if he was watching it like a porn and attempted to join in.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 2:20 pm to AgMoney2143
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2) Although the bj clearly makes her look bad, it doesn't necessarily mean that it was consensual. She could have not wanted to go any farther than that, but the fact that she never brought that up and the fact that the roommate said he didn't see her fighting it are more telling.
nobody is this fricking stupid please tell me that at least.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 2:21 pm to Rittdog
Posted on 12/5/13 at 2:21 pm to WDE24
In the case documents, originally she told police she had "black outs" and didn't remember much. Also told a friend that she was hit on the head or something of the sort.
Then she came back the next day and was able to tell police:
2 scooters outside, and the colors of said scooters.
What the apartment complex looked like
That his door didn't lock
The color of his sheets and the design on them
Then she came back the next day and was able to tell police:
2 scooters outside, and the colors of said scooters.
What the apartment complex looked like
That his door didn't lock
The color of his sheets and the design on them
This post was edited on 12/5/13 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 12/5/13 at 2:21 pm to Rittdog
quote:
It damages any chance of a conspiracy imo. If she's not consistent with what happened then..
Right. Her inconsistencies sunk this case. I agree. And it's evidence that she made the whole thing up.
It seems odd that her account is accounted for almost word for word by the roommate's affidavit. And I believe Meggs said that the police report was given to Jansen. I'm not going to go full-on tinfoil, however. This case is a non-starter.
Posted on 12/5/13 at 2:22 pm to tunechi
Posted on 12/5/13 at 2:22 pm to the808bass
Jansen speaking now. Winston is not with him
Posted on 12/5/13 at 2:22 pm to Rittdog
quote:
But she doesnt deny that others were there...which gives credence to his story.
She possibly got upset that JW told his roommate to come in for a train. She got upset. Yelled 'get out' and slammed the door. Made JW take her home, and was so pissed about the attempted 3 way, she went straight to PD with rape
Posted on 12/5/13 at 2:23 pm to saintsfan22
quote:
She could have not wanted to go any farther than that
Did you miss
quote:
As a
joke, I busted into the room to embarrass Jameis. The girl yelled at me, "get out." She got up off the bed
and turned off the light and tried to close the door.
so what?
that wouldn't be proof that she didnt want to stop once the door was closed.
again, I'm not saying he did anything wrong or not. (must repeat since morons like the Ocean think that anyone who comes up with any scenario that could be bad for Jameis means they want him to be guilty.)
Posted on 12/5/13 at 2:23 pm to League Champs
Anyone else reading the police report find M.K. super sketchy?
Posted on 12/5/13 at 2:23 pm to saintsfan22
quote:Your missing the point. I could point to her claims saying that she was kicking him, so what makes his more valid? I agree that it probably was consensual just stating that you can't use that as proof.
Did you miss
Posted on 12/5/13 at 2:23 pm to texastiger38
quote:
In the case documents, originally she told police she had "black outs" and didn't remember much. Also told a friend that she was hit on the head or something of the sort.
Then she came back the next day and was able to tell police:
2 scooters outside, and the colors of said scooters.
What the apartment complex looked like
That his door didn't lock
The color of his sheets and the design on them
Yep..
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