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re: NFL-NFLPA Labor Talks | NFLPA has filed for decertification

Posted on 3/11/11 at 4:40 pm to
Posted by jacks40
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 4:40 pm to
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Jeff sounds pissed


He did a good job of glossing over tge fact that they only agreed to keep it to 16 games for 2 more years. That along with Smiths stance last night makes me believe the 18 games was the sticking point.

Owners: 18 games or give us extra $1 billion

Players: 16 games and prove u need an extra billion.
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Posted by Hemlok
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 4:42 pm to
Good. Move some college games ( not lsu) to Sunday instead of piling all the good games on tv at once. More college football which is better.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 4:44 pm to
The big east should play on sundays instead of thursday & saturday. All non BCS confrences play sundays
Posted by jacks40
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 4:44 pm to
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Posted by Hemlok
Good. Move some college games ( not lsu) to Sunday instead of piling all the good games on tv at once. More college football which is better.




People keep saying that but a new deal could theoretically happen at any time. What happens if u schedule Sunday games then 2 days before they start we get a new CBA?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 4:47 pm to
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People keep saying that but a new deal could theoretically happen at any time. What happens if u schedule Sunday games then 2 days before they start we get a new CBA?


They aren't just gonna start playing 2 days after an agreement I wouldn't assume. They would need more notice to get the players up to speed, in practice, etc.
Posted by NJ El Tigre
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 4:48 pm to
how does this effect the draft? to they just go along as normal but just don't play games
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37056 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 4:49 pm to
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He did a good job of glossing over tge fact that they only agreed to keep it to 16 games for 2 more years. That along with Smiths stance last night makes me believe the 18 games was the sticking point.

Owners: 18 games or give us extra $1 billion

Players: 16 games and prove u need an extra billion.


it's worse than that even (they are further apart probably). I think after the 2 billion off the top the owners want a greater % of the take (If I understand the profit sharing atm)


2010 Agreement: what to do with 9 billion


Owners: first billion and 40% after that - take home 4.2 billion

Players: 60% of the 8 billion - take home 4.8 billion



The owners want a double whammy - more money off the top to start and then a greater percent of the remainder... all while their teams increase in base value anyway (and their stadiums are typically funded by taxpayers)

Hypothetical 2011 Agreement: what to do with 9 billion

Owners: 2 billion plus 50% of remaining 7 - take home 5.5 billion

Players: 50% of remaining 7 - 3.5 billion
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40112 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 4:49 pm to
thats why i think it will never happen, but its still fun to talk about the possibility of it happening.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 4:50 pm to
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how does this effect the draft? to they just go along as normal but just don't play games
the draft will go on as planned. However, I dont know if they are allowed to sign any players.
Posted by jacks40
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Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 4:52 pm to
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They aren't just gonna start playing 2 days after an agreement I wouldn't assume. They would need more notice to get the players up to speed, in practice, etc.


Right but how far in the future is CFB willing to schedule Sunday games? Up into Oct? Nov? Just seems hard to plan for something when the NFL is such a variable. I guess if switching back to Saturday would be easy then who cares
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37056 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 4:52 pm to
there's a strong possibility IMO of no football this year

Anyone who left college early would be stuck wondering if they should have stayed in school another year

Posted by jacks40
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Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 4:53 pm to
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owners want a double whammy - more money off the top to start and then a greater percent of the remaind


Yeah I'd be a little pissed if I was a player too
Posted by GamecockAlum
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Member since Dec 2010
7705 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 4:54 pm to
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it's worse than that even (they are further apart probably). I think after the 2 billion off the top the owners want a greater % of the take (If I understand the profit sharing atm)


2010 Agreement: what to do with 9 billion

Owners: first billion and 40% after that - take home 4.2 billion

Players: 60% of the 8 billion - take home 4.8 billion



The owners want a double whammy - more money off the top to start and then a greater percent of the remainder... all while their teams increase in base value anyway (and their stadiums are typically funded by taxpayers)

Hypothetical 2011 Agreement: what to do with 9 billion

Owners: 2 billion plus 50% of remaining 7 - take home 5.5 billion

Players: 50% of remaining 7 - 3.5 billion



I see absolutely nothing wrong with this. The players need to learn their roles. They need the owners, not the other way around.
Posted by kclsufan
Show Me
Member since Jun 2008
12099 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 5:00 pm to
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The players need to learn their roles. They need the owners, not the other way around.

I would LOVE to see the Jerry Jones suit up and get nailed on a delayed linebacker blitz.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37056 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 5:00 pm to
it's a lot of money either way but the owners in the NFL run the risk of going the way of the owners in MLB

If you throttle the golden goose and you owned the goose you are the one making a mistake
Posted by jacks40
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Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 5:01 pm to
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I see absolutely nothing wrong with this. The players need to learn their roles. They need the owners, not the other way around.


Mind telling me at what point the revenue sharing would have to be in order for u see something wrong with it?
Posted by angryslugs
Member since Apr 2008
11349 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 5:06 pm to
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I see absolutely nothing wrong with this. The players need to learn their roles. They need the owners, not the other way around.


Replacement players beg to differ.
Posted by GamecockAlum
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Member since Dec 2010
7705 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 5:10 pm to
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Mind telling me at what point the revenue sharing would have to be in order for u see something wrong with it?


Do you dictate how much of your employers revenue is shared with you and your coworkers?

The Owners are the employers, they dictate what they pay, not the employees.
Posted by mgdtiger
Member since May 2006
3263 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 5:11 pm to
both sides were ready to go to court most likely. The owners did come out with an offer, that basically met them halfway, of course they didn't present it till noon, not giving the players much notice. However, the players gave the owners a grand total of 10 minutes on their demands. players hadn't budged an inch
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40112 posts
Posted on 3/11/11 at 5:14 pm to
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I see absolutely nothing wrong with this. The players need to learn their roles. They need the owners, not the other way around.
I do not agree with this. It is a mutual relationship between the two. If the star athletes aren't playing then who will go see the games? If you were to tell me that this year the NFL would have replacement players my Saints season tickets would go unused. The organization will still get my season ticket money, but that is also millions being lost in concessions and merchandise.
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