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re: NFL considering abolishing extra points
Posted on 1/20/14 at 6:03 pm to bigeztiger
Posted on 1/20/14 at 6:03 pm to bigeztiger
quote:How?
Goodell at it again... Always fricking shite up
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Posted on 1/20/14 at 6:03 pm to TH03
quote:Not a good point. Nothing wrong with field goals being harder. Harder field goals would actually improve the game. More going for it on 4th down makes the game more exciting.
but that's not the issue here. if you want to make extra points harder, do it, but don't change another aspect of the game just to fix one aspect
Posted on 1/20/14 at 6:05 pm to TH03
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so because kickers have gotten better, we need to change the game? frick goodell, he's a piece of shite
quote:You just called Goodell a piece of shite and insinuated the game didn't need to change, then in the same post, next line, you mention how the game should change.
make it to where the kicker of the extra point has to have been on the field during the TD
Posted on 1/20/14 at 6:06 pm to shel311
please explain how I changed the game with my suggestion? score TD, kick extra point. looks the fricking same to me
Posted on 1/20/14 at 6:06 pm to shel311
The platoon system would actually cut down on injuries and make the extra point all of a sudden a little less predictable, but that's too revolutionary a change that would never be allowed by the NFLPA and obviously isn't desired by the NFL itself.
I'd like to see it, though. I think the sport in its pure form sees players playing on both sides of the ball.
I'd like to see it, though. I think the sport in its pure form sees players playing on both sides of the ball.
This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 1/20/14 at 6:07 pm to ballscaster
because so many kickers are automatic from 50+
Posted on 1/20/14 at 6:09 pm to Freauxzen
quote:IF you take the extra point out, that changes nothing of what you said. not even one bit. The EP is already viewed as automatic, so how could it change?
The tension comes from the entire scoring structure. You have to retain the 6+1 and 3 and 2 scoring method. If you take that out, the entire idea of play calling changes to accommodate the value proposition of scoring.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 6:12 pm to TH03
quote:280 lb fullback kicking an extra point. yea, looks exactly the same. Not to mention the practice that would have to go into this for all players off the field, thus meaning players now practice less on non-kicks, thus making the offense incremently worse compared to defense.
please explain how I changed the game with my suggestion? score TD, kick extra point. looks the fricking same to me
quote:And your idea doesn't create a new problem for kicking extra points?
and creates a new problem for long field goals.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 6:13 pm to ballscaster
quote:This, all of it.
Not a good point. Nothing wrong with field goals being harder. Harder field goals would actually improve the game. More going for it on 4th down makes the game more exciting.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 6:14 pm to shel311
quote:If the idea is to give an automatic 7 for a touchdown with the option of going for an 8th point on a play where if you don't score, you lose a point and go back to 6, you're correct in what you say here.
IF you take the extra point out, that changes nothing of what you said. not even one bit. The EP is already viewed as automatic, so how could it change?
But look at it this way. NBA players are better shooters than college players are. Check out the 3-point lines. Nothing wrong with doing something similar with NFL kickers. They kick better--no problem making it more of a challenge.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 6:14 pm to shel311
the 280 pound fullback has to kick to extra point? when did I say that?
dumbass, that's the whole point of what goodell is saying.
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And your idea doesn't create a new problem for kicking extra points?
dumbass, that's the whole point of what goodell is saying.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 6:21 pm to Rand AlThor
A little unrelated, but I wish the NFL would go to the wider hashmarks. It always seemed a bit silly for the professional kickers to get easier angles than the college ones.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 6:22 pm to Rand AlThor
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Why can't it just stay the way it is?
Posted on 1/20/14 at 6:23 pm to St Augustine
quote:It can, but we're talking about possible changes.
Why can't it just stay the way it is?
Posted on 1/20/14 at 6:28 pm to Rand AlThor
Goodell is one of those dumbass tinkerers. He has knee jerk reaction to concussions and fricks up the game with a bunch of dumbass rules that absolutely no one likes, then tries to unfrick his frickup with another frickup.
He'll go down as one of the worst commissioners in history.
He'll go down as one of the worst commissioners in history.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:47 am to shel311
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The tension comes from the entire scoring structure. You have to retain the 6+1 and 3 and 2 scoring method. If you take that out, the entire idea of play calling changes to accommodate the value proposition of scoring.
IF you take the extra point out, that changes nothing of what you said. not even one bit. The EP is already viewed as automatic, so how could it change?
But very few are proposing to "just make it automatic." most of these suggestions involve some sort of play, an option for easier 2 point conversions, etc.
You are correct if you either just make it an automatic 7 OR just increase the length, then yeah nothing would change and that's good. But that isn't the proposition.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:49 am to gabe311
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Teams have ALWAYS had the option to go for two.
Only since 1994.
No I mean, they always have that opportunity throughout the game. Not in history. As the game is played now, they can go for 2 whenever they score a touchdown. But risk isn't believed to be worth it, so no one does it.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:37 am to TH03
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but don't change another aspect of the game just to fix one aspect
...any rule change invokes the law of unintended consequences. See KO Clock Rule and Grant Teaff as an example.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:38 am to Rand AlThor
First good idea they've had in the past 20 years.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:47 am to Rand AlThor
so b/c kickers are really good he wants to dump them?
why not just move the kicker back to like the 15 on the extra point?
then like others have said if you want to go for 2 you get it at the 5.
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