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re: New Orleans Bowl - Troy (50) North Texas (30) Final (ESPN) Game Thread

Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:36 pm to
Why did NT take a timeout there? Left plenty of time for troy to score
Posted by TulaneFan
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:38 pm to
Just like that it’s a 2 point game and UNT gets the ball first in the second half
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:38 pm to
UNT gets the ball to start the 2nd half
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:39 pm to
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UNT gets the ball to start the 2nd half


Which is exactly why they should've tried to milk the clock to ensure that troy didn't have an oppurtunity to score before half

Literel has made some wild decisions this half
Posted by TulaneFan
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:40 pm to
How much more milking should they have done? They left only 45 seconds
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:42 pm to

Interesting to notice some the commercial break chances ESPN isn't taking here. None during reviews and most recently no break after the UNT TD or after the kickoff. It's as if they don't have enough sold slots to do so. They must be hemorrhaging money.
Posted by TulaneFan
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:43 pm to
Damn Troy WR got the stone hands
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:44 pm to
They immediately called a timeout after they ran the ball on the previous drive at 58 and 53 seconds before scoring the TD

If you wait literally 10 seconds before calling the time out, troy gets the ball back with closer to 20 seconds instead of 45 seconds and with troys offense that could easily bite you in the arse. Not to mention troy would've had to burn their last timeout if they wanted to conserve time before half
Posted by laxtonto
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:45 pm to
2 point game at half? With as ugly as UNT looked early, I’ve got to say that this is a great start to bowl season
Posted by TulaneFan
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:47 pm to
Score update from the Celebration Bowl in Atlanta (HBCU National Championship)

Grambling and NC AT&T all tied up at 14, early 4th quarter
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 1:50 pm
Posted by laxtonto
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:48 pm to
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They immediately called a timeout after they ran the ball on the previous drive at 58 and 53 seconds before scoring the TD If you wait literally 10 seconds before calling the time out, troy gets the ball back with closer to 20 seconds instead of 45 seconds and with troys offense that could easily bite you in the arse. Not to mention troy would've had to burn their last timeout if they wanted to conserve time before half


But that only works out that way because UNT scores on the very next play. If that deep throw to the end zone was incomplete or if they checked it down in bounds, they needed the time. It was not a goal to go situation because the ball was on the 14, so you have to run the clock thinking you may have more than 4 plays, UNT just scored with one.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:53 pm to
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But that only works out that way because UNT scores on the very next play. If that deep throw to the end zone was incomplete or if they checked it down in bounds, they needed the time. It was not a goal to go situation because the ball was on the 14, so you have to run the clock thinking you may have more than 4 plays, UNT just scored with one.


if you trust your QB in the redzone, you should easily be able to get 4 plays in 50 seconds with 2 timeouts in your pocket from the 14 yard line.

If that TD was incomplete then the clock would've stopped.

If they would've gotten a first down the clock would stop until the chains

If your players go out of bounds, the clock would stop

And if you didn't rush to use your timeouts, you could have two of them in your pocket to stop the clock

50 seconds is a lot of fricking time. Troy almost went 60 yards in less time that that
Posted by TulaneFan
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:55 pm to
I get the strategy.. but this is a team that almost got run out of the damn stadium. I think first and foremost they just needed that score without worrying about getting too cute with clock management
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:58 pm to
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I get the strategy.. but this is a team that almost got run out of the damn stadium. I think first and foremost they just needed that score without worrying about getting too cute with clock management


The fact that the team your facing dominated your defense for the majority of the game is EXACTLY the reason why you need to execute that clock management correctly. They were 1 drop away from it kicking them in the arse.

It's one thing if you have Navy on the other side of the field, but when you have a troy team who has thrown all over you today, you don't need to risk them scoring in those final seconds and killing your momentum

And it's not "getting cute" with clock management. It's simply executing it correctly. Getting cute would be going for 2 with 8 minutes left in the 2nd quarter.

Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:59 pm to
fricking Troy
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 2:07 pm to
Another rough start out of the tunnel for NT
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 2:07 pm to
meanwhile... LSU basketball just lost to Stephen F Austin
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 2:08 pm to
Not sure how we missed that layup
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 2:09 pm to
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Not sure how we missed that layup

too much english on the cue ball

seriously though... he needed to finish that by slamming it... LSU could not have gotten a better look with the game on the line
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 2:10 pm
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 2:09 pm to
That idiot from Grambling ducked his head. That’s why the Targeting Rule is so strict
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