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NCAA wins court battle requiring student athletes to sit out a year before transfer.

Posted on 6/26/18 at 8:33 am
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 8:33 am
7th Circuit Sides With NCAA, Finds Year-In-Residence Rule Presumptively Procompetitive

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Amateurism is not dead, at least according to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit. On June 25, the court appellate court confirmed a lower court's dismissal of a case that challenges the "year-in-residence" rule, which requires transfering Division I student-athletes to wait a full academic year before performing at their new school. The justification was based on the athletes' supposed amateur status and the procompetitive nature of the rule.


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The year-in-residence regulation is easily characterized as an eligibility rule, per the Seventh Circuit, and thus was found to be entitled to a procompetitive presumption.


Here is the 7th Circuit's ruling in case anyone wants to dive deeper.

This is a huge blow against any incentive to change the rule in favor of athlete's unrestricted transfers.
Posted by crimsonian
Florida
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 8:41 am to
Love it. I hope everyone has to wait a year. Screw the pansies who can't start.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95170 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 8:49 am to
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love it. I hope everyone has to wait a year. Screw the pansies who can't start.
Then a coach who cuts a scholarship player should not be able to use that scholly for a year....

It’s ridiculous the court ruled this. Scholarships are 1 year contracts. The coaches are allowed to treat them as such, but the players are held to a higher standard

This post was edited on 6/26/18 at 8:49 am
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 8:58 am to
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Love it. I hope everyone has to wait a year. Screw the pansies who can't start.

Yeah god forbid a guy that wants to do what he thinks is best for him can move on to better himself.
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
22472 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 9:02 am to
To be fair, true free agency was never considered....only exceptions to the rule IE how some are already in place for graduate transfers, etc
Posted by Kcstills17
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 9:02 am to
Fine line between that and open free agency in CFB though. The one year sit out rule needs to be tinkered with but It is probably required.
Posted by Ford Frenzy
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 9:10 am to
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Then a coach who cuts a scholarship player should not be able to use that scholly for a year....

It’s ridiculous the court ruled this. Scholarships are 1 year contracts. The coaches are allowed to treat them as such, but the players are held to a higher standard
I agree with the 1 year requirement to sit out, but yes you are right, the coaches need to have a similar punishment for this as well
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 9:36 am to
Oh look another dumb crimsonian hot take.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 9:46 am to
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Fine line between that and open free agency in CFB though. The one year sit out rule needs to be tinkered with but It is probably required.

I get what you're saying but if the school is giving them a scholarship on a year to year basis; why isn't the athlete given the same freedom?

I am one that is against paying players but if you want to argue amateurism then giving players the same year to year options as the school only makes sense

Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:02 am to
My whole deal on this is that coaches should be held to the same, really higher standards, than these kids are. They can peace out whenever they want to wherever they want with no repercussions while students have to sit our, jump through hoops, just to play again.
This post was edited on 6/26/18 at 10:03 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:09 am to
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Then a coach who cuts a scholarship player should not be able to use that scholly for a year....

It’s ridiculous the court ruled this. Scholarships are 1 year contracts. The coaches are allowed to treat them as such, but the players are held to a higher standard



This is a far better argument than people who say the coaches can leave but the students can't. The coaches are professionals.

That being said, I think the ruling is dumb for the reason you stated.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84882 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:12 am to
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Fine line between that and open free agency in CFB though. The one year sit out rule needs to be tinkered with but It is probably required.


There should be some sort of appeal process that distinguished whether a transfer is for familial or playing time reasons vs a guy going to LSU after a breakout season at ULL or Nicholls.
Posted by JGTiger
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:16 am to
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Fine line between that and open free agency in CFB though. The one year sit out rule needs to be tinkered with but It is probably required.


Agreed. I would like to see them still have to sit out a year but not lose a year of eligibility. Just my opinion.
Posted by crimsonian
Florida
Member since Jun 2012
7374 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:42 am to
There should be a rule added that you can never leave a school for another school that a former coach of yours is now coaching at. Can't follow.
Posted by Northshore Saint
Loranger, LA
Member since Feb 2013
1864 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 12:16 pm to
I'm sort of against having them sit out a year. Don't see the need to penalize adults for doing what they feel is in their best interest.

If that's how they want it to be then coaches should definitely be held to a similar standard. If they resign from a job then they must sit out a year before taking another head coaching job. Getting fired or leaving at end of contract doesn't count obviously.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95170 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 12:27 pm to
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Getting fired or leaving at end of contract doesn't count obviously.
Why?

Currently a student athlete is penalized a year after leaving at the end of his contract
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18984 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 12:36 pm to
I agree if a player is cut the school should not be able to use the scholarship that year
Posted by Northshore Saint
Loranger, LA
Member since Feb 2013
1864 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 12:40 pm to
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Why? 

Currently a student athlete is penalized a year after leaving at the end of his contract



Good point
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 1:05 pm to
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NCAA wins court battle requiring student athletes to sit out a year before transfer.


I assume y'all are smart enough to know that the athlete always loses when they contest NCAA regulations in federal court, with the exception of some federal district courts in California. The majority of the federal courts bend over backwards and apply abstract concepts to sustain the mirage that is amateurism, they did this 30 years ago, they'll do it today that's called consistency.
Posted by JBeam
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Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 1:09 pm to
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The majority of the federal courts bend over backwards and apply abstract concepts to sustain the mirage that is amateurism, they did this 30 years ago, they'll do it today that's called consistency.


It's such horseshite.
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