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re: NCAA should not pay players; debate me:
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:40 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:40 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:So, what's the issue there? Also, it's not fake value, it's real value.
Why even go through the charade? That allows boosters to pay fake values for jerseys and autographs.
quote:And you're acting like it's impossible to keep the system as is while allowing players to make money off of their name/likeness.
Gurley can choose not to go to college. People act like there are no choices.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:41 pm to pvilleguru
quote:Yea, he has no logic behind that, he just keeps saying it for some odd reason.
What's with this either/or bullshite?
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:41 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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That allows boosters to pay fake values for jerseys and autographs.
How is that a fake value? If that is what they are willing to pay, then that is its value.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:42 pm to msutiger
quote:What's the problem with this? The girl playing soccer is not bringing any value to the university, IMO, she doesn't have any instrinsic right to be able to play soccer in college if she wants to.
Congratulations, now the girl who was fulfilling her dream playing college soccer while also getting a scholarship to school will no longer get that opportunity because a power-five, five-star DB wanted new shoes on top of his free education, free housing, free meal plan in a private cafeteria, free athletic gear, free books and weekly nationally televised audition for professional football.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:43 pm to shel311
Also
And
Are not the same thing.
quote:
NCAA should not pay players
And
quote:
Why even go through the charade? That allows boosters to pay fake values for jerseys and autographs.
Are not the same thing.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:43 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Sure that works for SEC schools but now schools like ULM, Louisiana Tech, ULL and many other G5 schools will be forced between choosing between figuring out a way to pay student athletes or start shutting down programs.
Congratulations, now the girl who was fulfilling her dream playing college soccer while also getting a scholarship to school will no longer get that opportunity because a power-five, five-star DB wanted new shoes on top of his free education, free housing, free meal plan in a private cafeteria, free athletic gear, free books and weekly nationally televised audition for professional football.
This is my argument against players getting paid. People are naive if they think they coule get away with paying football and basketball teams, while the rest of the sports don't get a dime.
But players should be allowed to make money off themselves absolutely.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:44 pm to shel311
quote:
What's the problem with this? The girl playing soccer is not bringing any value to the university, IMO, she doesn't have any instrinsic right to be able to play soccer in college if she wants to.
I do think there is value to the university for nonrevenue sports. A universities mission is to graduate well rounded students and athletics is a part of that. As ice already stated, I think most parties would compromise if the system stayed the same and the revenue generators could profit off of their likeness.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:45 pm to Gullah Gullah Island
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This post was edited on 4/9/23 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:48 pm to msutiger
quote:That ship sailed a looooong time ago. The NCAA is about making billions of dollars, that is there #1 priority.
The NCAA is about giving young athletes the opportunity to continue competing athletically at a higher level
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:49 pm to msutiger
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The NCAA is about giving young athletes the opportunity to continue competing athletically at a higher level while also providing them an education most will use once their four years are completed
In theory. In practice, they are a bribe taking organization with unilateral power that exploits young people. They make rules for athletes that don't apply to any other students on campus to make sure they keep all the money.
If you think a player not being able to go on a commercial for money or sign autographs is right, I don't know what to tell you. The NCAA was putting out a video game of its players and taking all the money from it for God's sake.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:50 pm to crazy4lsu
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There is no logical reason taxpayers should fund sports that function as the minor leagues for the NBA and the NFL.
Outside of that, funding for these students should be like how any department at a university funds graduate students. The better, richer programs can offer higher stipends.
I could get behind this, step in the right, more fair direction I mean its more the case in football than basketball but those football players put their bodies on the line for a minimum of 3 years before they ever get paid over the table for taking those dangerous risks, logically they should be compensated accordingly and wouldn't affect my fandom for my team one bit, free market the bitch
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:51 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Are you seriously implying someone can just sit for 3 years after high school and be drafted in the first round? Players have to go to college man. This is some retarded shite right here.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:52 pm to shel311
quote:
That ship sailed a looooong time ago. The NCAA is about making billions of dollars, that is there #1 priority.
That is true but my option is that while the NCAA has become money-focused organization, it still offering a lot of benefits to a wide spectrum of student athletes.
Just because they have already dug this hole, doesn't mean they need to dig deeper and destroy all of the good they have created.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:52 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
::insert wall of text with incredibly well constructed, articulate points that cannot be disputed here::
tl;dr - ncaa should pay players
tl;dr - ncaa should pay players
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:54 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:
If you think a player not being able to go on a commercial for money or sign autographs is right, I don't know what to tell you. The NCAA was putting out a video game of its players and taking all the money from it for God's sake.
Where have I said this? You're arguing something completely different than I am talking about. This is about a school paying a student-athlete an hourly wage.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:55 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
The NCAA is a private organization and has decided that they don't want to pay players, or for them to get paid. Those that disagree are free to ply their wares elsewhere.
Last I checked, there were nearly a dozen college athletic organizations in the United States and Canada, including the NCAA, NAIA, NJCAA, CCAA and the NCCAA. None of them pay their players. If this was such a winning issue, then why don't they?
Last I checked, there were nearly a dozen college athletic organizations in the United States and Canada, including the NCAA, NAIA, NJCAA, CCAA and the NCCAA. None of them pay their players. If this was such a winning issue, then why don't they?
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:56 pm to msutiger
Paying players would need serious tweaks to title IX
Just in general no woman sport is as profitable as the men’s sport and most don’t make a profit at all.
Most sports don’t make a profit.
Just in general no woman sport is as profitable as the men’s sport and most don’t make a profit at all.
Most sports don’t make a profit.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:57 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:
They make rules for athletes that don't apply to any other students on campus to make sure they keep all the money.
The other students on campus are not members of their organization.
Should an english major abide by some rule established by the chemistry dept?
These players are VOLUNTARILY joining this organization knowing full well what the rules are.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:58 pm to msutiger
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A lot of people don't realize the ripple effect schools paying football players would cause. You think you are going to only pay football players? Lol, you will be paying soccer, volleyball, bowling and every other non-revenue sport as well.
I doubt the money would be taken from the general athletic fund it would probably be booster money. And just so you know players already get paid for basketball and football and it other sports still get scholarships.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:00 pm to TH03
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Are you seriously implying someone can just sit for 3 years after high school and be drafted in the first round? Players have to go to college man. This is some retarded shite right here.
No, you're conflating NFL rules and NCAA rules.
There are nearly 30 pro and semi pro football leagues in North America. They are free to join one of them.
All opportunities are not equal, nor should they be.
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