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re: NCAA is after Jim Harbaugh again

Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:19 am to
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:19 am to
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As penalty Michigan State should be given 7 points to start the game. Michigan State 7 and Michigan 0 before kickoff.


Might be the only way Michigan State gets a touchdown on the board tomorrow night.
Posted by LSUtiger89
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:21 am to
I remember Mett standing next to Chief in 2011 telling him every play Georgia was about to run in the SEC Championship game. The Georgia manager on our side was cursing out Mett. It was too funny.
Posted by MJackson
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:29 am to
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Rutgers was beating Michigan pretty soundly for most of the first half. They were down 14-7 but mostly self-inflicted. The 2nd half was the complete opposite. Rutgers could do nothing right. I know Michigan is a lot better but it was odd.




WTF you talking about? Rutgers scored off of a big pass play (69 yarder) because our safety whiffed on a tackle. they never had a methodical drive all game. matter of fact, they had 257 yards ALL game, INCLUDING the 69 yarder

i have no idea what your definition of "pretty soundly" is, but it appears like it's completely asinine. yeah, UM didn't play it's best half, but rutgers was thoroughly beaten down minus that one big play


Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:58 am to
What's so funny is fans of other teams acting like if this is all true it's fine.

If they violated rules that other teams follow, and they get caught, then why should they not be punished?

Harbaugh was likely leaving after this year anyway. However, if this is true, and I'm qualifying because it could all be bullshite, then why shouldn't OSU fans and players/coaches be the most irate, since that cost OSU potential B1G titles as well as chance to play for a title in 2021 and a better seed in 2022.

If he's beating Day because he's cheating, then he's not really beating Day

Posted by ctiger69
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 10:12 am to
The NCAA should send Michigan to the PAC 12 as a punishment.
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 10:15 am to
If I was Michigan State, I wouldn't have wanted this going public. You could have used the knowledge of Michigan stealing signals against them. But now UM will play straight up.
Posted by Nathan Hail
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 10:35 am to
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What's so funny is fans of other teams acting like if this is all true it's fine.

If they violated rules that other teams follow, and they get caught, then why should they not be punished?

Harbaugh was likely leaving after this year anyway. However, if this is true, and I'm qualifying because it could all be bullshite, then why shouldn't OSU fans and players/coaches be the most irate, since that cost OSU potential B1G titles as well as chance to play for a title in 2021 and a better seed in 2022.

If he's beating Day because he's cheating, then he's not really beating Day


what signal did Harbaugh steal from osu?

was it the "let Michigan manhandle us" signal or was it the "let Michigan run our asses over" signal.

this is all theatre. if they actually had anything on Harbaugh, they wouldn't be going after cheeseburgers and sign stealing.

the reason Harbaugh is beating osu now is because he's doing what he knows and not trying to beat osu at their own game. that idea was doa. Michigan could never compete with osu in recruiting.

Harbaugh is pro-life and speaks about it at pro-life functions. he voted for trump. he helps the poor and legally defenseless with his own money. his family has done just as much, if not more, than anyone else to help black coaches succeed. he doesn't take his marching orders from the b1g or the ncaa. there are a lot of bureaucrats who have it out for Jim.
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 10:39 am
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80518 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 10:52 am to
There's allegations that a former Marine Captain had a team of volunteers that would go to opponents games and film the signals. They would then match those up with the game film provided to them.

This former Marine was seen on film standing next to Michigan Defensive Coordinator Dan Brown while signaling the play for his defense.

If they filmed signals from opponents games, that's death penalty type behavior.
Posted by MJackson
Member since Dec 2006
1126 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:07 am to
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There's allegations that a former Marine Captain had a team of volunteers that would go to opponents games and film the signals. They would then match those up with the game film provided to them.

This former Marine was seen on film standing next to Michigan Defensive Coordinator Dan Brown while signaling the play for his defense.

If they filmed signals from opponents games, that's death penalty type behavior.


1) Don Brown was a past DC, who last coached in 2020. this connor stallions was hired in May 2022. something doesn't add up

2) death penalty? you serious? a Baylor coach got a half-game suspension for in-person scouting in 2016. this connor guy was an analyst

LINK

are all OSU fans MRDD?
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25257 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:08 am to
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was it the "let Michigan manhandle us" signal or was it the "let Michigan run our asses over" signal.



People are intentionally being dense.

Michigan had less than 10 yards rushing in the first half of the game last season. If they knew the playcalls OSU was using and run fits, then they could call plays to take advantage of that.

Seriously how is this so difficult for people to wrap their heads around
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25257 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:09 am to
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1) Don Brown was a past DC, who last coached in 2020. this connor stallions was hired in May 2022. something doesn't add up



I think I read he was voluntary before then, then got hired in 2022

Again, this will all play out
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80518 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:10 am to
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1) Don Brown was a past DC, who last coached in 2020. this connor stallions was hired in May 2022. something doesn't add up


He has been with the program since 2015 and his role has increased each year.

Are you MRDD,
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52092 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:13 am to
at all the Ohio State fans in this thread. Sad bunch.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80518 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:14 am to
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at all the Ohio State fans in this thread. Sad bunch


What would tRant be like if this was about Saban?
Posted by Gnash
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Member since Oct 2015
10914 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:15 am to
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I remember Mett standing next to Chief in 2011 telling him every play Georgia was about to run in the SEC Championship game. The Georgia manager on our side was cursing out Mett. It was too funny.

That is funny. Not calling you a liar, but wasn’t Chief in the press box during games?

Matt Flynn has said he did the same thing in the NFL.
Posted by MJackson
Member since Dec 2006
1126 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:17 am to
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He has been with the program since 2015 and his role has increased each year.

Are you MRDD,


so this conor guy was a volunteer coach from 2015 until 2022, and he somehow recruited/paid other guys to voluntarily record other teams' games? must be VERY persuasive by not having to pay them.

also, if the NCAA had credible evidence, why are they demanding his laptop? seems like they should have everything they need if they want to smear UM

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52092 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:21 am to
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What would tRant be like if this was about Saban?


You mean the board all of you make fun of? Yeah, being like that is a good look.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25257 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:21 am to
quote:

also, if the NCAA had credible evidence, why are they demanding his laptop? seems like they should have everything they need if they want to smear UM



If you have tons of evidence, why wouldn't you get more if it's available.

Holy crap at least go watch an episode of law and order or A Few Good Men
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80518 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:22 am to

quote:

so this conor guy was a volunteer coach from 2015 until 2022, and he somehow recruited/paid other guys to voluntarily record other teams' games? must be VERY persuasive by not having to pay them.


I'm just telling you the allegations. He likely started recording on his own and then possibly assembled a team.

Or maybe he worked alone.


quote:

also, if the NCAA had credible evidence, why are they demanding his laptop? seems like they should have everything they need if they want to smear UM


Why wouldn't they want significant direct evidence? Huh?
Posted by MJackson
Member since Dec 2006
1126 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:29 am to
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If you have tons of evidence, why wouldn't you get more if it's available.


WTF? like, seriously, WTF?

if you already HAVE tons of evidence, and it's irrefutably crystal clear, why demand more? you should be satisfied. no need to acquire more

makes no sense whatsoever
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