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re: NBA tournament. Who wins? 1st round
Posted on 5/6/25 at 1:12 pm to VA LSU fan
Posted on 5/6/25 at 1:12 pm to VA LSU fan
Duncan and KG aren’t forwards. They had to play forward until Shaq retired because all the normal centers during that era had to be moved away from Shaq so they could stay on the floor. They moved to Center as soon as he was gone and are post players. They’d be centers in every other era.
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Posted on 5/6/25 at 1:16 pm to VA LSU fan
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You tell me who he is better than
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Walton
Bill?
Stopped reading your list there.
You have to be trolling
Posted on 5/6/25 at 1:18 pm to SuckerPunch
Rodman would probably make Draymond get banned from ever playing in NBA again after one quarter.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 1:20 pm to Tyga Woods
Just shows they didn’t watch any of these players. They’ve seen the recast of Jordan’s last game in Chicago that played after the last dance doc. and that’s all they know of that era.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 1:22 pm to Tyga Woods
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Who?
LeBron
Leonard
Jokic
Giannis
Tatum
Curry
Durant
Those seven for sure
So 10 might have been a stretch, but 7 better is for certain.
He would be in the Davis, Doncic, Irving, SGA group.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 1:23 pm to VA LSU fan
Why? What are you basing this off of?
This post was edited on 5/6/25 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 5/6/25 at 1:25 pm to Madking
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Duncan and KG aren’t forwards.
I like Duncan, but it used to drive me crazy when they were racking up titles they way people would declare him best PF ever.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 1:28 pm to Bunk Moreland
It’s silly narrative nonsense. He’s always been a center. When Mitchell Robinson and KAT are on the floor together we don’t change their position designations do we? Of course not, the Knicks just play two bigs together sometimes.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 1:29 pm to Tyga Woods
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Bill? Stopped reading your list there. You have to be trolling
Since you’re under 20.
Back to back undefeated college championship teams
MVP and title with Portland
6 moy and title on probably the best team ever in the 86 Celtics.
Yes his career was cut short. But he was absolutely better than Malone pre injury.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 1:32 pm to VA LSU fan
You don’t make any arguments. You just make declarative statements without any substance. You cite college accolades in this last one, you cite awards and accolades for one player only in a comparative statement. I’m not even necessarily disagreeing with you on this point but your takes are basically saying nothing.
This post was edited on 5/6/25 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 5/6/25 at 1:58 pm to SuckerPunch
You have to give Jordan enough respect that he would win 2-3 games; he would be the best player on the floor. The Bulls were built for their era; the Warriors were built for theirs. Don't forget, if Kawhi doesn't get hurt, the Spurs push the Warriors to at least six games, if not more.
Warriors over Bulls in 7 assuming FOM rules
Fakers over Spurs in 6 (assuming Fakers get 2001 team). If Spurs get 2014 team, this changes
Celtics over Nuggets in 6
Jazz over Fakers in a sweep (how is this team in this tournament?)
Warriors over Bulls in 7 assuming FOM rules
Fakers over Spurs in 6 (assuming Fakers get 2001 team). If Spurs get 2014 team, this changes
Celtics over Nuggets in 6
Jazz over Fakers in a sweep (how is this team in this tournament?)
This post was edited on 5/6/25 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 5/6/25 at 2:35 pm to SuckerPunch
Bulls > Warriors
Lakers > Spurs
Jazz > Lakers
Nuggets > Celtics
Lakers > Spurs
Jazz > Lakers
Nuggets > Celtics
Posted on 5/6/25 at 3:22 pm to VA LSU fan
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Yes his career was cut short. But he was absolutely better than Malone pre injury.
No doubt. Not only was Walton easily equal to Malone on the offensive end even if he didn't score as many points, he was a much better defender.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 3:28 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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Not only was Walton easily equal to Malone on the offensive end
Posted on 5/6/25 at 3:32 pm to Tyga Woods
So the comparison in this case has gone off the rails. The original ask was 86 Celtics so that’s the Walton the actual comp should be made to. It got twisted into prime Walton which doesn’t make any sense.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 3:35 pm to Tyga Woods
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Not only was Walton easily equal to Malone on the offensive end
Their PER's were about the same in their 4th years before Walton got hurt. Walton at 24.8 and Malone at 24.4. PER judges offensive effectiveness.
Walton won MVP his 4th year and Malone finished 3rd in MVP his.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 3:58 pm to Diseasefreeforall
But you can’t just single out one preferred season and ignore everything else to reach a conclusion. Do you know how many NBA players have had one great season? You could argue Bernard King or Gilbert Arenas are far better historically than they truly are based on 1 season.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 4:03 pm to Madking
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But you can’t just single out one preferred season and ignore everything else to reach a conclusion. Do you know how many NBA players have had one great season? You could argue Bernard King or Gilbert Arenas are far better historically than they truly are based on 1 season
The point is that Walton was on an upward trajectory before injuries decimated his career. He even struggled with leg injuries during his short peak years.
Walton is one of the biggest what ifs in basketball history. If he could have stayed healthy it would have been Magic, Bird and Walton with Bill likely in the argument for being the best of the three.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 4:11 pm to Diseasefreeforall
You’re absolutely correct and I’m not disagreeing with you necessarily but stat comparisons like that make for a weaker argument. If you took prime Walton and put him in these 4 around 1 sets we use today he’d be a real problem. Thats kind of how I try to look at all these cross era comps because when we normally see these there’s a ton of context left out of them and they tend to be paper thin, pun intended.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 4:15 pm to Diseasefreeforall
He averaged like 15 points per game in the four years before his injury.
Maybe he would’ve been better, but that’s a guess.
Allan Houston had a few really nice years.
Malone proved it for almost two decades.
And I’m not some big Malone fanboy, but to say Walton was as good is absurd.
Maybe he would’ve been better, but that’s a guess.
Allan Houston had a few really nice years.
Malone proved it for almost two decades.
And I’m not some big Malone fanboy, but to say Walton was as good is absurd.
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