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re: NBA Offseason Trade & FA thread: KD To Ws, Wade to Bulls
Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:26 pm to NOLA Bronco
Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:26 pm to NOLA Bronco
As a 76ers fan, I could live with Barnes. A big Waiters deal would defeat me.
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:30 pm to NOLA Bronco
honestly as long as the sixers dont' 1. trade the laker pick or 2. trade embiid or Simmons the situation is pretty unfrickable
so what if they over pay for barnes, they have 2 potential superstars and a defensive player of the year candidate on their roster already
just get a PG with the laker pick next year
so what if they over pay for barnes, they have 2 potential superstars and a defensive player of the year candidate on their roster already
just get a PG with the laker pick next year
Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:38 pm to vengeanceofrain
To me it just signals poor decision making.
Both are poster children for market inflation due to how good the team around them was. In Waiters case we don't even know if this uptick in production was an outlier or not.
Can the Sixers absorb and function if they give 23 million to Barnes and maybe 15 million to Waiters? Sure, but tying up nearly 40% of your cap space on two career 4th-5th options with no real intangibles to speak of for this young core seems wildly stupid.
Both are poster children for market inflation due to how good the team around them was. In Waiters case we don't even know if this uptick in production was an outlier or not.
Can the Sixers absorb and function if they give 23 million to Barnes and maybe 15 million to Waiters? Sure, but tying up nearly 40% of your cap space on two career 4th-5th options with no real intangibles to speak of for this young core seems wildly stupid.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:38 pm to NOLA Bronco
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Barnes for 23 million is going to get someone fired. Plus they want to sign Waiters?
Hinkie is about to get a phone call and an endless supply of prostitutes to un-frick this madness by this time next year.
Its like the Sixers are running from one extreme to the next.
I'm anxious to see what GS does if they whiff on Durant. Will they match Barnes or let him walk.
For perspective if GSW matches a max deal, Barnes will be by far their highest paid player. The second highest paid would be Klay who makes like 16 million per.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:40 pm to TheDarrell McSteal
The Warriors are in a unique position IMO because they can just keep paying ridiculous tax to keep this championship roster together so from their perspective it makes sense to keep Barmes if they whiff on Durant.
Not many other teams are in a position where overpaying Barnes makes sense. At least in my mind.
Not many other teams are in a position where overpaying Barnes makes sense. At least in my mind.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:42 pm to TheDarrell McSteal
there is no way a 10 win team is going to NOT over pay someone to go there. they are going to have to over pay someone. at least barnes is 23 years old and provides floor spacing with his 3 point shooting.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:42 pm to NOLA Bronco
Barnes at 23 would be fine with the 76ers current players and cap situation, unlikely they would be able to put that space to better use. And he fits with Simmons and is low usage. Adding in Waiters would make the inevitable 25 win season seem more disastrous.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:48 pm to floridatigah
I just see the alternatives and ask why?
Bazemore is out there and will command less but give you similar production.
You could go after Deng for 2-3 years at a high rate and maintain more flexibility and the same production but better veteran leadership.
If you are swinging for the fences why not Parsons?
Plus what does it say if Barnes goes to the Sixers? If you're a sixers fan you have to wonder what sort of player you are getting that would come to the worst team in the league for a few million more.
Bazemore is out there and will command less but give you similar production.
You could go after Deng for 2-3 years at a high rate and maintain more flexibility and the same production but better veteran leadership.
If you are swinging for the fences why not Parsons?
Plus what does it say if Barnes goes to the Sixers? If you're a sixers fan you have to wonder what sort of player you are getting that would come to the worst team in the league for a few million more.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:57 pm to NOLA Bronco
His age fits with the 76ers roster better than those guys. If Bazemore is significantly cheaper I'd prefer him but I'd take Barnes over Parsons.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 6:59 pm to floridatigah
I wonder where my boy Joe Johnson is going to end up. He could get a 1 year contract upwards of 10 million if he wanted out of Miami.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:02 pm to NOLA Bronco
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what does it say if Barnes goes to the Sixers? If you're a sixers fan you have to wonder what sort of player you are getting that would come to the worst team in the league for a few million more.
I would not pay Barnes a max deal. he's just ok.
he never made 80% of his free throws in a season.
he averages ONE 3 point shot made per game. one.
under 5 rebounds per game.
not even close to one block or one steal per game.
not even close to two assists per game.
Philadelphia are suckers if they pay Barnes a max deal.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:04 pm to razorbackfan4life
quote:Joe isn't leaving miami. it's warm, they are half arse good and they will pay him
I wonder where my boy Joe Johnson is going to end up. He could get a 1 year contract upwards of 10 million if he wanted out of Miami.
Joe could give 2 shits about winning a chip
joe wants that paper This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:06 pm to vengeanceofrain
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Joe isn't leaving miami. it's warm, they are half arse good and they will pay him
Joe could give 2 shits about winning a chip joe wants that paper
Someone will offer him more than Miami..
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:10 pm to razorbackfan4life
not where it's warm tho. joe is not going to a cold weather team
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:15 pm to floridatigah
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His age fits with the 76ers roster better than those guys. If Bazemore is significantly cheaper I'd prefer him but I'd take Barnes over Parsons.
As someone that has witnessed first hand with the Pelicans how difficult it is to build with only 20-25 year olds, I would not be trying to only stick with 19-24 year olds at this point in this teams development. Or at least be very picky about the personalities you are going to add when doing it.
But more importantly I just wouldn't want anything to do with Barnes at 23 million a year. He will barely move the needle and he does little in terms of building the culture you want to start building.
He's fools gold.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:21 pm to NOLA Bronco
The 76ers wouldn't be giving up assets to overpay Barnes so it's not that comparable to what the Pelicans have done.
Who knows, Barnes will likely get the same offer from another team and never consider the 76ers. Do know that Hinkie pissed off every agent in the league and Colangelo will likely show interest in every major free agent that will consider the 76ers.
Who knows, Barnes will likely get the same offer from another team and never consider the 76ers. Do know that Hinkie pissed off every agent in the league and Colangelo will likely show interest in every major free agent that will consider the 76ers.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:32 pm to NOLA Bronco
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Barnes for 23 million is going to get someone fired. Plus they want to sign Waiters?
23 for Harrison isn't such a hit when everybody else they're paying is on rookie contracts. Plus they need somebody with some winning experience since most of that roster hasn't won 60 games in the league.
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Hinkie is about to get a phone call and an endless supply of prostitutes to un-frick this madness by this time next year.
Its like the Sixers are running from one extreme to the next.
They have to build an actual team at some point.
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:45 pm to floridatigah
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The 76ers wouldn't be giving up assets to overpay Barnes so it's not that comparable to what the Pelicans have done.
Who knows, Barnes will likely get the same offer from another team and never consider the 76ers. Do know that Hinkie pissed off every agent in the league and Colangelo will likely show interest in every major free agent that will consider the 76ers.
I was speaking on the type of roster makeup you want for a young team. Not the method they were acquired.
I don't think Barnes - as nice of a guy as I have heard him to be - is the type of player that really helps build a winning culture and a winning mentality. Something it was widely reported the Sixers had issues with last year. That is on top of him just not being worth anywhere near his cost.
But by all means sign the guy Sixers, it will keep him away from the Pelicans and that is a win for me.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:50 pm to NOLA Bronco
Man I love the Lakers, been down with them since childhood. Even through these "troubled" years. But this front office is delusional. They still think they can get Durant in LA.
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The Lakers intend to contact Durant and his representatives July 1 and are confident they will get a meeting, the source said
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