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Posted by GeauxTigers2020
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:50 am to
Givony's most recent mock had Trae falling to 12. There's no way McDonough doesn't trade up if he slides past 10 IMO. Unless he's got a good deal for Kemba on the table.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:50 am to
I’m assuming Brooklyn is sending more draft assets or something. Otherwise it makes no sense. I don’t think they’re up against the tax or anything where it would make sense to cut money for this year.

Or they just don’t really don’t want Dwight around the team anymore
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 8:53 am
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:50 am to
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I don't understand the point in this trade. Why would Charlotte take on more long term dollars?

32.7 over two years versus 23.8 for one year. Doesn't make sense to me to add 16.7 mil in cap next season for only 2 seconds.


Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:52 am to
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I don’t think they’re up against the tax or anything where it would make sense to cut money for this year.

They are up against the tax line, but I would think there are better ways to duck under the tax than this.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:53 am to
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I don't understand the point in this trade. Why would Charlotte take on more long term dollars?


Thats what Im trying to figure out.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:55 am to
Yeah I would think you could get a better deal for Dwight. My god Charlotte has some terrible contracts though
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:58 am to
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He signed a free agent deal with LA


Wow, I totally forgot about that. Deng made a dumb decision then if he went there for basketball reasons.
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:02 am to
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Wow, I totally forgot about that. Deng made a dumb decision then if he went there for basketball reasons.



No one else was offering him anything close to 4yrs/$72 million like LA did
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:02 am to
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My god Charlotte has some terrible contracts though


Forcing a salary floor makes teams that can't get the top guys give out inflated deals.

That said, guys like Deng and Mozgov don't have to get 4 years deals. The duration of the deals is what makes them bad.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:02 am to
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My god Charlotte has some terrible contracts though

Yes they do, and they are paying their best player 12 mil

I would think they could have just given Lamb and a second to someone with cap space for a fake second or something. He's only getting paid 7 mil.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 9:05 am
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:02 am to
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63453 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:03 am to
Yeah true. I was trying to find reason on this deal but it’s pretty bad. Hilarious that it’s Mozgov too
Posted by floridatigah
FL
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10398 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:03 am to
Im guessing Jordan can't stand Dwight and they're avoiding the luxury tax.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37271 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:04 am to
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Forcing a salary floor makes teams that can't get the top guys give out inflated deals.

The only punishment for not reaching the salary floor is that you have to divide the remaining amount that you are below the salary floor among your signed players. Unless I'm missing something. You could also just do that the Sixers would do and just give out inflated deals, but those deals were only for one season. I.e. Redick making 23 mil this past season.
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:04 am to
This has probably given me false hope that maybe, just mayyyybe, Deng won’t be as hard to move as previously expected.


Or maybe Mitch is just senile
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63453 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:04 am to
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Forcing a salary floor makes teams that can't get the top guys give out inflated deals.


This is true, but it doesn’t force them to give out like 5 inflated deals and be up against the luxury tax
Posted by TxWadingFool
Middle Coast
Member since Sep 2014
5657 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:04 am to
Given Pop's red arse approach I don't see anyway he trades KL to the Lakers, help a rival and accommodate a cry baby? Not happening, he'll trade him to the east for the best deal he can or tell him to report next year and play him until at least the trade deadline and then see if he can move him to the east.
Posted by floridatigah
FL
Member since Oct 2004
10398 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:05 am to
It's a bad sign for the Lakers moving Deng. Atlanta is the only team now I can see taking Deng on.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37271 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:05 am to
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This has probably given me false hope that maybe, just mayyyybe, Deng won’t be as hard to move as previously expected.

But, it also takes away a potential landing place for Deng.
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 9:08 am to
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It's a bad sign for the Lakers moving Deng. Atlanta is the only team now I can see taking Deng on.



But maybe a team with a big expiring could be interested in taking on Deng if it nets them Ball or Kuzma. Maybe Phoenix with Tyson Chandler possibly since they have been rumored to have interest in a 3 team with LA and San Antonio
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 9:09 am
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