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Modifying the Rooney Rule

Posted on 12/31/13 at 5:18 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84831 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 5:18 pm
There is a thread about the virtues or lack theroff in regards to the Rooney Rule over on the CC board but i know a lot of people don't go over there very often so I though I would bring it here and get some thoughts.

My position is this: I think the Rooney Rule should really be in place for entry or 2nd level coaching positions. The main reason you have fewer minority head coaches is because you also have fewer minority coordinators and so forth. The hard part is just breaking onto a staff in the first place. Once you;re there you will get promoted if you can help the team win.

I don't think anyone is saying "i'm not going to hire this guy because he's black", but the decision makers do tend to hire people that most mirror their background, which statistically favors a white candidate. A Rooney Rule for those entry level jobs would give minorities the opportunity to break in and once in they will rise or fall on their own merit.
Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
5416 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 5:20 pm to
There are black position coaches and coordinators everywhere.
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
17665 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 5:22 pm to
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 5:23 pm to
Well that and a little bit of patience...from all parties.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18408 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 8:25 pm to
Get rid of the rule. Black people will never be happy and that's all there is to it.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22079 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 8:25 pm to
Following the Tea Party/Libertarian/Wingnut position, the NFL is a private entity and the membership creates the rules. If the membership of the NFL decides they don't need or want the Rooney Rule, they will change it.

I, for one, think it has been a positive force in the NFL.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84831 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

If the membership of the NFL decides they don't need or want the Rooney Rule, they will change it.


well no shite. i'm just spitballing here for the sake of discussion.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141660 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 8:31 pm to
I think we should judge people not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character
Posted by Pepband13
Dallas
Member since Oct 2013
108 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 8:51 pm to
It's not for just black people idiot.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110677 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

but the decision makers do tend to hire people that most mirror their background, which statistically favors a white candidate
this this this!

quote:

I don't think anyone is saying "i'm not going to hire this guy because he's black
How about too hip hop?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110677 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

Get rid of the rule. Black people will never be happy and that's all there is to it.
Yea, this post isn't racist at all LOL.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18408 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

It's not for just black people idiot.

Right.....but do you ever hear complaints over the lack of Hispanic coaches? No.

That rule is to get black coaches. Just like the constant complaining a few years ago over the lack of black QBs.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18408 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

Yea, this post isn't racist at all LOL.

Not racist....just the truth.
Posted by Pepband13
Dallas
Member since Oct 2013
108 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 9:27 pm to
The rule is for minorities period. The complaints were also by white people who knew some black coaches had the qualifications. The rule is to open the door for interviews not demand hiring. Make sure you iron your butt hurt sheet tonight.
Posted by Dark Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4494 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 9:30 pm to


The frick it isn't...that's exactly what it's for. How can you even say that??
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141660 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 9:30 pm to
Why aren't there any women coaches in the NFL?

Every single coach in the league, head coaches and assistants, is a male. Really NFL? You're trying to tell us that there is not one qualified female coach out there?

I believe the NFL should institute a "Poony Rule" requiring all NFL teams to interview a woman for all coaching vacancies.
Posted by Pepband13
Dallas
Member since Oct 2013
108 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 9:35 pm to
I suggest you do some research. Then again I know yo wont.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18408 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

The rule is for minorities period. The complaints were also by white people who knew some black coaches had the qualifications. The rule is to open the door for interviews not demand hiring. Make sure you iron your butt hurt sheet tonight.

Why am I butt hurt? The rule isn't "working" and I despise the rule.

I'm thrilled
Posted by Dark Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4494 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 9:37 pm to
Okay buddy - who is it for then? Words on paper don't mean shite - the rule can state "minority" all day long, but in the end it means blacks...stop denying it.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 12/31/13 at 9:41 pm to
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It's not for just black people idiot.



Keep telling yourself that.

tomlin was quoted as the only remaining minority coach by NFL Sirius

Ron Rivera FTW
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