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Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 8:31 pm to
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If you want to get rid of divisions and just take the best 6 teams fin
would be a better setup than what we have now
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 8:32 pm to
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would be a better setup than what we have now


Really wouldn't be that different. Just a couple of changes in scenery. You're making a much bigger deal out of it than it actually is.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 8:36 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 10:18 am
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 8:41 pm to
I guess in the sense that literally none of this matters and each individual series is a literal coinflip regarldess of circumstance

But i guess the overal point is that baseball should try to give its better teams an easier path. Not a more difficult one
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 8:54 pm to
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But i guess the overal point is that baseball should try to give its better teams an easier path


But even then, record isn't the biggest decider of that.

Case and point, even without the hindsight of winning a World Series, the Braves heading into the postseason were clearly a better team than the Brewers, but they still had to go to Milwaukee to open the NLDS.

No matter the format, it's never going to be a fool-proof method.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 8:55 pm to
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the Braves heading into the postseason were clearly a better team than the Brewers, but they still had to go to Milwaukee to open the NLDS.

and i think the giants would have rather played the brewers than the Dodgers
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 8:57 pm to
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and i think the giants would have rather played the brewers than the Dodgers



Yeah, but why should the Dodgers get special treatment when they couldn't pass up the Giants?

Win your division, scrub.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 8:59 pm to
Seems like it would be protecting the Giants who were the #1 seed
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 9:00 pm to
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Seems like it would be protecting the Giants who were the #1 seed



But why do the Dodgers deserve protection for not winning their division and getting to play a weaker team?

You can argue it both ways.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 9:03 pm to
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But why do the Dodgers deserve protection for not winning their division and getting to play a weaker team?
why should we punish a team for only winning 106 games instead of 107 and reward another team for only winning 95?

Why should we punish the team who did win their division by forcing them to play the clearly better team as opposed to giving them an easier path?
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 9:04 pm
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 9:05 pm to
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why should we punish a team for only winning 106 games instead of 107 and reward another team for only winning 95?


...because if we have divisions, there should be some importance in winning them.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 9:06 pm to
So then why did we punish the team who won that division by making them play the clearly better team between the dodgers and brewers?
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 9:08 pm to
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So then why did we punish the team who won that division by making them play the clearly better team between the dodgers and brewers?



We're just going in circles here.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 9:11 pm to
I mean, am I wrong? Were the Giants not punished last year into playing a clearly better team due to arbitrary seeding?
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 9:11 pm to
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If you want to get rid of divisions and just take the best 6 teams finwould be a better setup than what we have now


I think that’s the direction the sport goes after expansion. Nashville and Portland get teams, and the AL and NL basically become the eastern and western leagues
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 9:13 pm to
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I mean, am I wrong? Were the Giants not punished last year into playing a clearly better team due to arbitrary seeding?



Sure, but in your scenario the Dodgers (or whoever the wild card is) would benefit, so it's not exactly "fair" either way.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 9:17 pm to
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but in your scenario the Dodgers (or whoever the wild card is) would benefit, so it's not exactly "fair" either way
only when they end up having a better season than any other team making the playoffs which I really fail to grasp how that lacks fairness
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 9:18 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 9:26 pm to
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which I really fail to grasp how that lacks fairness



So in this case, last season would've been Dodgers hosting the Brewers in the NLDS, right?

Why should a team that didn't win their division get to host a team that did win their division.

And if you say it's because they won more games, fine, but that's no different than me saying "well on the flipside, they won their division".
Posted by tzimme4
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 9:28 pm to
Going to be tough to stop that Phillies 1-2 rotation in a 3 game series.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 9:31 pm to
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