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re: MLB has their stuff together
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:16 pm to MontyFranklyn
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:16 pm to MontyFranklyn
Baseball may not be popular among black youth in America but it's not because it's too expensive. That's a ridiculous argument.
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:19 pm to volfan30
quote:That wasn't the entire point, but go ahead. I just said that it is one of the factors and gave a good example. I guess you didn't read it.
Baseball may not be popular among black youth in America but it's not because it's too expensive. That's a ridiculous argument.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:20 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Bingo, I think this was more popular than that poster realizes.
Is it popular in black communities? That is the basis of the topic. We played a little baseball when I was a kid, but we played basketball and football all the time. Baseball just wasn't that popular from my experiences.
I think some of it is the economic opportunity of playing each sport. Kids see a quicker path to a payday playing basketball or football, which are marketed better to the urban community. I know baseball has had past initiatives to bring baseball to the inner city, not sure how much time and effort they put into it though. Definitely not as many resources as they are putting into the Latin American countries though.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:21 pm to rutiger
quote:Ding, Ding, Ding!!!!!!!!!!
I think some of it is the economic opportunity of playing each sport. Kids see a quicker path to a payday playing basketball or football, which are marketed better to the urban community. I know baseball has had past initiatives to bring baseball to the inner city, not sure how much time and effort they put into it though. Definitely not as many resources as they are putting into the Latin American countries though.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:22 pm to volfan30
quote:He'll never admit it.
Baseball may not be popular among black youth in America but it's not because it's too expensive.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:25 pm to MontyFranklyn
What about that all black team that made it to the Little League World Series a few years ago? Hmmm
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:25 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:Okay, but if none of your relatives played it and don't have the glove and/or ball, where will it be passed down from? I know that this isn't true across the board, but I don't think you all are really looking at it from a different perspective.
Youth gloves are cheap and can be passed down. You only need one bat and those can also be passed down.
You need to drop that silly argument.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:26 pm to MontyFranklyn
A new youth glove is $30. You can join a league and borrow a bat.
$30 is too expensive? GTFO.
Keep trying, buddy.
$30 is too expensive? GTFO.
Keep trying, buddy.
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:28 pm to MontyFranklyn
The issue with baseball and attracting the black community is that baseball is a sport that takes time to make it to the major leagues and really hard to make a name for yourself nationwide. Basketball you can go one year in college and at 19 you can be in the NBA making millions. Football is the most popular sport in the US and you can go to a big name college and make a name for yourself. After 3 years your 20-21 years old and you have the opportunity to make millions right off the bat.
In baseball you can't go 1 year out of high schoolstraight to the majors and crush it right away. If you skip college you probably are looking at 3-4 at the earliest years to polish your skills in the minors before even sniffing a MLB roster. Only the very very best like Trout, Harper, Correa make it in the very early 20's.
Basically with football and basketball they is somewhat more immediate gratification i.e. Fame and money. In baseball it takes time and when your family is poor in the ghetto you want the quickest way to get them out. This is the truth.
In baseball you can't go 1 year out of high schoolstraight to the majors and crush it right away. If you skip college you probably are looking at 3-4 at the earliest years to polish your skills in the minors before even sniffing a MLB roster. Only the very very best like Trout, Harper, Correa make it in the very early 20's.
Basically with football and basketball they is somewhat more immediate gratification i.e. Fame and money. In baseball it takes time and when your family is poor in the ghetto you want the quickest way to get them out. This is the truth.
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:30 pm to rutiger
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know baseball has had past initiatives to bring baseball to the inner city, not sure how much time and effort they put into it though. Definitely not as many resources as they are putting into the Latin American countries though.
It's a chicken or the egg thing. Individual teams aren't building academies in inner city Chicago or Detroit like they do in DR because they don't see it as a worthwhile investment. The academies in the DR go way beyond baseball academies as well, kids learn English there and they work with the older ones to help them adapt to American culture if they are going over.
RBI is basically set up to be a similar thing but kids in the inner city don't see it as the same type of ticket as kids in the DR do. As bad as some of our inner cities are they aren't on the general level of abject poverty that occurs in those parts of Latin America.
I do think it would be interesting to see a larger market team put a ton of money into their inner city programs and develop them more like academies.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:31 pm to SoFunnyItsNot
quote:What about the thousands of all black AAU basketball teams? Hmmm. All I can go by is my experiences and the people I know. Like I said, it isn't marketed to blacks anyways.
What about that all black team that made it to the Little League World Series a few years ago? Hmmm
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:32 pm to Another Blown Save
just wanted to chime in and say, if anyone is on the fence about MLB.tv or paying for a premium service to watch, you should get it.
the NHL version has increased my interest in the NHL by a lot. I believe MLB and NHL are on the same platform/provider. Very nice product
really is a game changer and I highly recommend . bit expensive but the more you watch, the more cost efficient it gets.
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the NHL version has increased my interest in the NHL by a lot. I believe MLB and NHL are on the same platform/provider. Very nice product
really is a game changer and I highly recommend . bit expensive but the more you watch, the more cost efficient it gets.
quote:
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This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:33 pm to MontyFranklyn
The marketing is the part that matters. The idea that baseball is expensive to play is absurd. Kids in the DR grow up playing with milk cartons sticks and bottle caps.
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:33 pm to jefforize
I love watching the recaps in the morning. The perfect length and very well put together.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:36 pm to MontyFranklyn
Yes but these kids were all over ESPN for weeks. Doing interviews and what have you. But I was just told the sport isn't marketed to Urban youth.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:39 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:I get that. Look at it from this perspective though:
The marketing is the part that matters. The idea that baseball is expensive to play is absurd. Kids in the DR grow up playing with milk cartons sticks and bottle caps.
Yes, they could do this, but most won't take the time and effort to go through all of that when they can easily just play a game of football or basketball. They probably won't even think to do that to begin with honestly. In Cuba and the DR they aren't exposed to basketball or football as much so they make the extra effort to play baseball. In America black youth are flooded with ads promoting basketball and football.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:42 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Yes, they could do this, but most won't take the time and effort to go through all of that when they can easily just play a game of football or basketball. They probably won't even think to do that to begin with honestly. In Cuba and the DR they aren't exposed to basketball or football as much so they make the extra effort to play baseball. In America black youth are flooded with ads promoting basketball and football.
You could have said
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The marketing is the part that matters
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:44 pm to RandySavage
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Sports like soccer and lacrosse will,
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:44 pm to jefforize
What's the NHL equivalent?
I'm probably maxed out on sports but I'm going to look into it.
I'm probably maxed out on sports but I'm going to look into it.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:45 pm to SoFunnyItsNot
quote:Name that last black MLB star that had a shoe deal? Name the last black player that the MLB has put on the forefront as the league's face? It was Jeter and didn't even know Jeter was black until 2001 and I watched the Yankees as much as I could in high school. Now on the flip side you see Cam Newton in tons of commercials along with OBJ and others. All you see from the NBA are the black players being pushed to the forefront. So one week of promoting young black kids isn't going to override the years of advertising the NFL and NBA has done.
Yes but these kids were all over ESPN for weeks. Doing interviews and what have you. But I was just told the sport isn't marketed to Urban youth.
Oh and btw the answer to the MLB player having a shoe deal is Jeter and before that is was KG and The Big Hurt.
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