re: MJ vs lebron - are these stats true?

MJ vs LeBron
This is a silly debate. Clearly Michael is better. It's not even a close one. But let's go to the facts. Updated after Lebrons 14th season. Michael Jordan has
•3 more rings
•3 more final mvps
•1 more DPOY
•1 more season MVP
•9 more scoring titles
•3 more steals leader
•3 more all defensive team selections
•4000 more points / bron moved past him in playoff points, but it took him longer lol.
•800 more steals
•Beat 20 50+ win teams in the playoffs (Lebron only defeated 10)
•Jordan never averaged less than 40% Field Goal in the finals
Lebron did it twice
•6/6 (never allowed a game 7)
•Lebron had much more help
•Jordan never had a teammate averaged more than 22 points in the finals..
Kyrie averaged over 28 and DWade averaged more than 26
•MJ never ever had a finals meltdown like Lebron in 2011 against the Mavs
•MJ had more points in the playoffs in less games..
All of this accomplished in 13 seasons
Lebron is in his 14th season still chasing the "ghost that played in Chicago"
•Michael Jordan in the playoffs has put up atleast 40ppg, 5rpg, 5apg in 6 different playoff series. Along with an average of about 55% shooting, 3spg and 2bpg.
(86 vs bos, 89 vs cavs, 90 vs philly, 92 vs Miami, 93 vs Phoenix, 88 vs cavs) Jordan won every one of those matchups except for the 1986 matchup vs the celtics.
•Jordan in 88-89 averaged 32ppg, 8apg, 8rpg, 3spg off 54% shooting. LeBron has never even came close to this stat line.
•in 87 thru 92, MJ averaged 5 straight seasons of atleast 51% FG shooting. LeBron has never done this.
•the lowest FT% MJ ever shot in a season was 78%. Lebrons highest in a season ever is 78%.
•MJ has a higher playoff FG% of 48.7% to Lebrons 48.3%
•MJ has a higher playoff player efficiency rating of 28.6 to Lebrons 27.3.
•MJ shoots a higher playoff 3 point percentage of 33.2% to Lebrons 32.9%

•MJ also shocked the league by being the first (and only) player to have 100 blocks and 200 steals in the same season, then turned around and did it again the next year..

Seriously this list can keep going. This isn't even a debate. Mj is the GOAT.

Michael in only ELEVEN complete seasons with the Bulls:

-10 STRAIGHT scoring titles,
-Won Defensive Player of the Year,
-9 times all defensive team,
-9time All NBA,
-5 league MVPs
-6 finals MVPs

All 11 seasons. Mj has done in 11 seasons things Lebron hasn’t done and won’t do in his whole career...

And before you criticize me for copy and pasting just know that it doesn’t matter if it’s copied or not, truth is truth.

Check Mate.

Ask bird who the goat is

Lebum ain't even top ten. Magic, Chamberlin,Stockton, mj, bird, akeem, Shaq. Hell u can put whole dream team ahead of lechoke

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LeBron James is the all-time scoring leader in NBA history. LeBron James is the all-time scoring leader in the playoffs in NBA history.

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We call these participation trophies. That's the only thing that generation knows.

Let’s look at Jordan’s teammates compared to LeBron.

Jordan likely player with at most 2 real HOFers in his career (Pippen and Rodman).

LeBron has played with Wade, Bosh, Shaq, Love, AD, Ray Allen, Kyrie, etc.

Jordan did most of his winning damage in a system that took the ball out of his hands running the offense while LeBron always plays in offenses that give him the ball allowing him to put up even more stats.

People will ignore that and claim LeBron was so amazing. He’s a great player but a massive stat padder.

Not a perfect analogy, but according to some of these morons, Emmitt Smith is the greatest running back of all time.

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Jordan did most of his winning damage in a system that took the ball out of his hands running the offense while LeBron always plays in offenses that give him the ball allowing him to put up even more stats.

People will ignore that and claim LeBron was so amazing. He’s a great player but a massive stat padder.

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Jordan took 23 shots a game. LeBron takes 18. Jordan went to the FT line more often too.

Guys like Kareem, LeBron, Malone, etc. do pad their stats by staying healthy and strong and playing for a long time, but are you going to knock a player for durability? That's a pretty important ingredient in the recipe of greatness. Wilt got out of shape. Bird destroyed his body. Magic got AIDS. And even the almighty Jordan quit twice during his prime because "basketball wasn't everything".

Great list and agreed. I was born in the early ‘80s and I remember witnessing greatness. Lebron just never cut it for me. Also I’m pretty sure MJ can read past page 2 of a book.

Celtics were happy to let MJ get 60. Problem was no other Bulls were going to score and MJ couldn't do it all alone.

McHale Pippen would've been a great matchup in their primes.

I really don’t care what anyone else says. I have watched both throughout both careers. IMO MJ is the GOAT. It’s not just stat driven. If some think Lebron is the GOAT more power to them.

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