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re: MJ: “I would never call myself the greatest ever”
Posted on 1/3/19 at 3:50 am to Tyga Woods
Posted on 1/3/19 at 3:50 am to Tyga Woods
I will
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 6:41 am to genro
It's always easy to tell in these thread who didn't think sports even existed before 2000. 
Posted on 1/3/19 at 7:56 am to kywildcatfanone
It's also always easy to see who in these threads allow nostalgia to overrule good sense.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 8:53 am to Tyga Woods
This is the right answer. You just can not compare players from different eras. The argument ends there.
LeBron is the best player I've ever seen because i'm 29 (I also have the same bday as LeBron )
For people slightly older than me, MJ was the greatest they had ever seen and nothing will change that. Magic, Bird, Wilt, before them, etc. etc etc.
LeBron is the best player I've ever seen because i'm 29 (I also have the same bday as LeBron )
For people slightly older than me, MJ was the greatest they had ever seen and nothing will change that. Magic, Bird, Wilt, before them, etc. etc etc.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 8:57 am to Tyga Woods
Well, Mike when you are the GOAT and not some little insecure bitch like a certain other person you don’t have to say it.
Mike=GOAT
Mike=GOAT
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:38 am to msudawg1200
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Well, Mike when you are the GOAT and not some little insecure bitch like a certain other person you don’t have to say it.
when has LeBron ever said he is the GOAT?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:43 am to AU_251
True GOAT baws
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:52 am to TbirdSpur2010
Nostalgia sounds nice, but facts are facts. Let's not forget that.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:59 am to kywildcatfanone
Fact is LeBron is a better player than Jordan.
And I say that as a fan of neither player (actually I've rooted against LeBron's team in every Finals he's been in).
James plays in a post-Jordan league. He had the benefit of growing up with a crop of players who idolized the man. Jordan was the first mover. His legacy will always be bigger. But only a fool would take prime Jordan over prime James in the NBA in either era, were both in a vacuum.
And I say that as a fan of neither player (actually I've rooted against LeBron's team in every Finals he's been in).
James plays in a post-Jordan league. He had the benefit of growing up with a crop of players who idolized the man. Jordan was the first mover. His legacy will always be bigger. But only a fool would take prime Jordan over prime James in the NBA in either era, were both in a vacuum.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:02 am to kywildcatfanone
And what are the facts oh wise one? 5 MVP’s? 6 Finals MVP’s? 6 rings? 30.1 PPG? Shall, I go on with the facts?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:55 am to TbirdSpur2010
TBird, you are normally one of my favorite posters because you speak eloquently and thoughtfully.
But this is just nonsense:
But this is just nonsense:
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But only a fool would take prime Jordan over prime James in the NBA in either era, were both in a vacuum.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:04 am to Tyga Woods
Best player ever was Bill Russell - 11 championships in 13 years 22.5 rebounds a game....different era, but he was a force back during the Celtics glory days. Any man that could shut down Wilt Chamberlin is a MAN
The pride of West Monroe,LA
The pride of West Monroe,LA
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:07 am to Tyga Woods
MJ's subtle trolls on Bron is fantastic.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:13 am to TbirdSpur2010
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But only a fool would take prime Jordan over prime James
Call me Fool Woods then. I watched both guys a bunch. Lebron has more physical gifts. Jordan was the better player and leader. Worked harder. Said the right things. It was obvious that you were going to have to kill MJ before he would give up...you can’t say the same about Lebron.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:28 am to Salamander_Wilson
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But this is just nonsense:
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But only a fool would take prime Jordan over prime James in the NBA in either era, were both in a vacuum.
Why?
Understand I'm not maligning Jordan by saying James is better. I'm saying MJ's initial transcendence is the reason James is better. MJ was revolutionary. Now what made MJ revolutionary is emulated by every basketball player worth their salt--a generation of players who grew up watching him and studying what made MJ great. My peers.
I'm not talking legacy or off-court relevance. I'm purely talking basketball. Unless it's a Spur, that's usually all I care about. The tale of the tape favors James. The style of play favors James. The caliber of opponent favors James. Looking at him objectively, he'd be dominant in either era. Jordan in today's era would be VERY good. Elite. In the MVP convo many years. But not better than James, IMO.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:30 am to Tyga Woods
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I watched both guys a bunch.
As did I.
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Lebron has more physical gifts. Jordan was the better player
Agree with the first sentence. Not the second. Look at the caliber and quality of defense and athlete James faces compared to Jordan. Look at the type of Finals opponents both have faced. Jordan was ON the greatest regular season team of all time--LeBron had to FACE that team. And that's just one example.
I always say this, but it bears repeating: MJ on James' Finals teams almost certainly loses to the '13 Spurs and the '16 Warriors. Only Finals that he MIGHT have prevailed in where James didn't is the '11 Finals (and that assumes that the Bulls can handle Dirk and a ridiculously gelled Mavs squad that year).
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 11:40 am
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:31 am to Tyga Woods
Prime LeBron is physically and mentally better than prime Jordan
Jordan also played in an era when turds like mark price were making all Star teams
Jordan also played in an era when turds like mark price were making all Star teams
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:40 am to Tyga Woods
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Worked harder
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:41 am to Mr Perfect
They weren't even allowed to play zone defense in jordan's era! lololol
LeBron would literally score every possession if they couldn't put 4 players on his side of the floor
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LeBron would literally score every possession if they couldn't put 4 players on his side of the floor
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This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 11:43 am
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