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re: Michael Vick Dogs story on ESPN E:60 right now
Posted on 4/22/09 at 10:13 am to jrmcmahon
Posted on 4/22/09 at 10:13 am to jrmcmahon
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As far as I am concerned, let all those people kill themselves through violence.
Exactly what the yall want. "Let them kill themselves off"
We treat Billy Joe and Sally Mays dogs better in this country than our own citizens. Its sickening really. Let Mike Vick live. I wont give two shits about dog fighting in this country until the day we start to care about our own endangered species, young black males
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Posted on 4/22/09 at 10:18 am to BackinFlesh
It's sad when people seem more concerned about dogs than they do about, say, homeless humans.
It's also sad that people don't care about the dogs who die in the Iditarod, or the animals killed in hunting or fishing, or the BRUTAL treatment of cattle, pigs, and chickens.
I guess those aren't "cute enough".
BTW, full disclosure: I have two dogs and two cats, I eat meat, and I don't condone dogfighting. I also don't condone hypocrisy, and that's my biggest problem with the treatment of the Vick case. Drop that false outrage people and direct your anger at worthy causes. Hell, stop listening to PETA and form PETH.
It's also sad that people don't care about the dogs who die in the Iditarod, or the animals killed in hunting or fishing, or the BRUTAL treatment of cattle, pigs, and chickens.
I guess those aren't "cute enough".
BTW, full disclosure: I have two dogs and two cats, I eat meat, and I don't condone dogfighting. I also don't condone hypocrisy, and that's my biggest problem with the treatment of the Vick case. Drop that false outrage people and direct your anger at worthy causes. Hell, stop listening to PETA and form PETH.
Posted on 4/22/09 at 10:26 am to Sophandros
As Long as Nathan Michaels enjoys killing deer, rabbits, etc ruthlessly with guns, it will happen. They'll find anyway to justify their own equally inhuman acts, if u want to call dog fighting inhumane, but let you touch one of their treasured animals and they flip ape shite.
Hypocrites.
I really still fail to see the difference between competitive hunting and fishing and dog fighting
Hypocrites.
I really still fail to see the difference between competitive hunting and fishing and dog fighting
This post was edited on 4/22/09 at 10:27 am
Posted on 4/22/09 at 10:33 am to lsu2006
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say what you want about the fact it's bad that he was drunk, and i'll probably agree with you, but this was not a pre-mediated act of murder, nor was it a malicious crime. it's not like he went out and decided he wanted to hit and kill a pedestrian.
He did however make the decision to impair his body, then break the law by getting behind the wheel, and in being a selfish a-hole KILLED A PERSON. That is where my outrage comes from. I still think Vick is a piece of shite, but I think going to federal prison for two years is enough. I don't see playing in the NFL as a right, but if someone is dumb enough to pay him that's fine by me. I don't think he should be punished on top of the time served
Posted on 4/22/09 at 10:52 am to The Easter Bunny
Adult humans are quite capable of taking care of themselves. Dogs are not. Know the difference.
Posted on 4/22/09 at 11:01 am to The Ramp
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Adult humans are quite capable of taking care of themselves. Dogs are not. Know the difference.
Every volunteer at a women's and children's homeless shelter? I take it that the answer to that question is NO.
Posted on 4/22/09 at 11:20 am to AlejandroInHouston
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People in India can't believe that you would ever do this to cows of any breed. You and the famers who harvest veal and beef fricking tortured those animals in ways most people could never imagine. How can you do this? These are sacred COWS we're talking about here!
By ordering veal and buying beef at restauants, you are supporting torture of animals in the same vein that Michael Vick did with dogs.
For shame, you hypocrite.
This is an argument for the sake of arguing. We are not in India or Korea so I could really give a shite what their customs are cause they are not ours as Americans. FWIW I don't eat veal because of how they are treated and too say that every cow or chicken killed for food is tortured is dumb and a lie. I don't get people who call those who think what Michael Vick did deplorable out for thinking so cause there is no excuse for his actions. He is a sick frick who got enjoyment out of torturing dogs in heinous ways for no reason what so ever.
Posted on 4/22/09 at 11:23 am to TEXASTIGER22
The way that cows and pigs are killed for our breakfast, lunch, and dinner are the same methods that Vick used. And those animals are kept in horrible conditions as well.
If you are outraged at Vick, be outraged at the meat industry, as well.
That said, the man did his time, and should be allowed to go on with his life.
If you are outraged at Vick, be outraged at the meat industry, as well.
That said, the man did his time, and should be allowed to go on with his life.
Posted on 4/22/09 at 11:40 am to Sophandros
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The way that cows and pigs are killed for our breakfast, lunch, and dinner are the same methods that Vick used. And those animals are kept in horrible conditions as well.
You're generalizing an entire industry with the actions of some. To say that every person in the meat industry beats and tortures their animals is false. Also those animals are killed for a purpose. Vick torturing his dogs and slaughterhouses killing cows to be processed for food are two completly different things. As for your other point, saying "people should be more concerned about other humans than dogs" is very true and is the norm for pretty much everyone outside of PETA. However, people are also more concerned about Dogs than Cows or Chickens since for most Dog owners they are more than just another animal, they are a member of our family. Their is obviously a hierachy of compashion for the treatment of animals or it would be seen as an outrage to kill spiders or flies in your home. Dogs and Cats are more important to people than Cows or Chickens who are more important to people than insects and other lower forms. Their is no hypocracy in caring more for a member of your family than caring for a cow or chicken as this is the norm in the society we were raised in.
Posted on 4/22/09 at 11:42 am to Sophandros
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The way that cows and pigs are killed for our breakfast, lunch, and dinner are the same methods that Vick used. And those animals are kept in horrible conditions as well.
If you are outraged at Vick, be outraged at the meat industry, as well.
The thing that amazes me most is that PETA seems to miss this bigger picture. Instead of piling on Vick (who, like it or not was basically immersed in this African American culture of dog-fighting... dont believe me? Go google Clinton Portis' quotes) with everybody else, why isn't PETA raising the bigger picture?
In my opinion they missed a golden opportunity to make people think.
Again - I'm a hypocrite too, I eat meat. I'm not saying that I'm better than anybody here. I'm just pointing out that in my opinion we're as responsible for mistreatment and torture of as many animals as Vick is.
This post was edited on 4/22/09 at 11:45 am
Posted on 4/22/09 at 11:56 am to AlejandroInHouston
we all know what Vick did was wrong, he's a real piece of shite for that, but wanting the man dead, and electrocuted and all that shite for dogs 
there is more to some peoples agenda than meets the eye, I'm not here to call out people , but the truth is the truth.
there is more to some peoples agenda than meets the eye, I'm not here to call out people , but the truth is the truth.
This post was edited on 4/22/09 at 11:57 am
Posted on 4/22/09 at 12:20 pm to tubucoco
Honestly, I'm the most pissed off about society's treatment of our fellow human being.
People for the
Ethical
Treatment of
Humans.
People for the
Ethical
Treatment of
Humans.
Posted on 4/22/09 at 12:33 pm to Sophandros
If it wasn't a pro athlete of anyone famous we wouldn't even be talking about this.
Posted on 4/22/09 at 12:36 pm to Mattdaddy311
I guess a posative of this has been that it shines a light on Dog Fighting in America.
Posted on 4/22/09 at 12:44 pm to TEXASTIGER22
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I guess a posative of this has been that it shines a light on Dog Fighting in America.
I'm glad it did, but I'm tired of hearing about Vick. If it was some average Joe it wouldn't even make the local news.
Posted on 4/22/09 at 12:46 pm to TEXASTIGER22
Yes, that scourge on society known as dogfighting. It's a much more important problem for us to focus on than, say, homelessness, hunger, and other injustices that are inflicted on our fellow human beings.
Vick and his buddies were being good capitalists by exploiting and destroying their cheap labor...
Vick and his buddies were being good capitalists by exploiting and destroying their cheap labor...
Posted on 4/22/09 at 12:53 pm to Sophandros
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Yes, that scourge on society known as dogfighting. It's a much more important problem for us to focus on than, say, homelessness, hunger, and other injustices that are inflicted on our fellow human beings.
Vick and his buddies were being good capitalists by exploiting and destroying their cheap labor...
What tha frick does this have to do with dog fighting? Is talking about this taking away from time that would otherwise be used to talk about homeless people or world hunger? Is this not important enough to be a discussion on a message board? I love how some people in this thread are making people who think what Vick did was diplorable out to be PETA activists. I think there are more important issues than Michael Vicks dog fighting ring but that doesn't mean it isn't important enough to be brought up on the MSB of tigerdroppings.com
Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:00 pm to TEXASTIGER22
like I said, I get that what he did was wrong, but some you guys take the shite too far, this guy is a high profile athlete that a lot of people are jealous of and they want to see him burn in hell to satisfy there on warped agendas, so they use the dog abuse as a frickin excuse for it, the man paid the price, was found guilty, did his time, and will pay the price for the rest of his life. his image will be forever tarnished, it will hurt him in future endorsement deals and everything, so move the frick on.
This post was edited on 4/22/09 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:05 pm to The Boat
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It was the round table discussion. It was some Black woman and Michael Smith defending Vick because there are worse crimes committed that what he did.
There are always worse crimes, unless you are talking Dammer, et al.
Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:06 pm to BackinFlesh
Whats the difference between what vick did and people that kill livestock... Its accepted in U.S. to electrocute Cows. A cow gives you milk. doesn't it? I dont think what vick did is good by the way, he should have been punished.
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