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re: Mel Kiper and McShay think Matt Barkley can be Drew Brees esque

Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by hg
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:54 pm to
You thought you farted but you shitted
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:56 pm to
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In 6 years time, he will be better than Luck. Facts.




Can I bookmark this?
Posted by kclsufan
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:57 pm to
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Said that if you surround him with a lot of talent and play uptempo he can be successful in the league.

Except that Brees makes everyone around him better, not vice versa.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 1:59 pm to
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In 6 years time, he will be better than Luck


Posted by CM84
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:06 pm to
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Said that if you surround him with a lot of talent



He had that in college. How'd that work out.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:24 pm to
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He isn't a terrible quarterback. The unrelenting hatred towards USC and the butthurt around here is ridiculous and illogical.


I'm a USC homer.

Barkley - with the best o-line (fewest sacks allowed in the nation) his Jr. year played pretty good.

But in all 4 years of his body of work, he hasn't improved much since a Freshman...ala Clausen/Powlus...and crumbles under pressure because he can't move...coupled with lame duck deep balls - despite throwing to Lee and Woods who can run under anything...Barkley continually missed them.

He can throw the good intermediate route and he lived off of bubble screens at USC. While he's not Captain checkdown - and can sling the ball when asked - he still has never felt like a Pro Starter...because he always needs to be perfectly comfortable and offense has to be perfectly clicking.

Barkley just isn't dynamic enough to put things on his shoulders of which the Pros requires. He's a peak-too-sooner...a guy who was way ahead of the curve in High School and started as first USC true freshman but it wasn't because of raw talent but great QB coaching and technical talent...I don't see him getting better and he would have to in order to survive the NFL.
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 2:25 pm
Posted by REG861
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:35 pm to
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Better question though...

If Brees never hurt his shoulder and stayed in San Diego...

Would he be the HOF QB he is today?


Most fortunate shoulder injury ever
Posted by REG861
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:36 pm to
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Barkley just isn't dynamic enough to put things on his shoulders of which the Pros requires. He's a peak-too-sooner...a guy who was way ahead of the curve in High School and started as first USC true freshman but it wasn't because of raw talent but great QB coaching and technical talent...I don't see him getting better and he would have to in order to survive the NFL.



Great analysis
Posted by Rittdog
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:37 pm to
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I farted but then shitted



Might wanna you know...take care of that bro. Unless thats just your "thing to do"

This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 2:37 pm
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:39 pm to
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"Plays in the spread offense, taking the bulk of his snaps from the shotgun... Tends to side-arm his passes going deep. Lacks accuracy and touch on his long throws...Does not possess the ideal height you look for in a pro passer, though his ability to scan the field helps him compensate in this area.


This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:55 pm to
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In 6 years time, he will be better than Luck. Facts.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 2:56 pm to
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Mel Kiper and McShay think Matt Barkley can be Drew Brees esque





Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 3:18 pm to
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In 6 years time, he will be better than Luck. Facts.



Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 3:19 pm to
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Put him in the Saints system he could be.




is this you trying to save your shitty arse thread?
Posted by Buddy Garrity
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 3:21 pm to
I see a lot of similarities. Not every good NFL qb was great in college. Barkley is extremely talented.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 3:50 pm to
If he didn't go to USC, he'd be another guy struggling to make a roster, and NOBODY at ESPN would be talking him AT ALL, much less comparing him to Drew Brees.

Fact.

Where's all the talk and comparisons for Mike Glennon?
Posted by Hurricane Mike
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 4:54 pm to
It translated to 7-5 at USC
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 4:55 pm to
Mel Kiper and McShay thought Barkley would be a 4 time Heisman winner and #1 pick in the NFL draft
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 5:00 pm to
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Better question though... If Brees never hurt his shoulder and stayed in San Diego... Would he be the HOF QB he is today?


A.J. Smith was on his way to kicking Brees out of SD regardless, the injury just guaranteed it. Rivers would have been starting in 2006.
Posted by sms151t
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 5:01 pm to
Without injury does Brees sign in NOLA? I think more than two teams take interest then. When did Carr leave Houston?
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