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re: McShay's Mock Draft 4.0 today; Mariota 2 Cooper 3

Posted on 3/30/15 at 5:51 pm to
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 5:51 pm to
This whole thing between White and Coop was so predictable. Coop goes entire season as the consensus #1, season ends then people fall in love with White, and as we move towards the draft everyone has Coop going before him.

Seems to happen to a couple of guys every year.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32393 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 5:51 pm to
So they are the same stupid raiders? Lol.. I wouldn't put it past that idiot organization at all..
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65775 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 5:53 pm to
I figured you were trolling
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 5:55 pm to
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This whole thing between White and Coop was so predictable. Coop goes entire season as the consensus #1, season ends then people fall in love with White, and as we move towards the draft everyone has Coop going before him. Seems to happen to a couple of guys every year.


the best are the people who claim white is a 10x better wr.

Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91644 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 5:56 pm to
My posts indicate that I loved Kevin White all season. I was raving about him a lot. I even had him on my fantasy football team.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91644 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 5:56 pm to
What? Link?
Posted by Sterling Archer
Austin
Member since Aug 2012
7297 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 6:17 pm to
What about the colts? TIA
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65775 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 7:00 pm to
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29 Eli Harold Indianapolis Colts (11-5) COLLEGE: Virginia Class: Jr HT: 6-3 WT: 247 POS: OLB
Analysis: I'd like to give them an offensive lineman here, but there aren't any left worth taking in this scenario. Harold would provide the Colts with a young pass-rusher to develop behind veterans Trent Cole and Robert Mathis, as Bjoern Werner has yet to provide evidence that he'll develop into an impact player. Harold is raw and needs to improve his recognition skills and tackling ability, but he flashes very good upside as a pass-rusher and is also a good run defender.
Posted by Col Reb is my mascot
Member since Feb 2012
4165 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 7:30 pm to
Eagles? thank
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65775 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 7:39 pm to
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20 Landon Collins Philadelphia Eagles (10-6) COLLEGE: Alabama Class: Jr HT: 6-0 WT: 228 POS: S
Analysis: The Eagles have been very active in free agency and via trades so far this offseason, adding QB Sam Bradford, RB DeMarco Murray, LB Kiko Alonso and CBs Byron Maxwell and Walter Thurmond, among others. Receiver and outside linebacker are need areas, but I'll have them address the safety position with Collins, who is an athletic strong safety prospect built like a weakside linebacker who can hold up in coverage and be a force for Philly in run support.
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 7:53 pm to
patriots?
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65775 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 7:55 pm to
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32 Byron Jones New England Patriots (12-4) COLLEGE: Connecticut Class: Sr HT: 6-0 WT: 199 POS: CB
Analysis: Running back Melvin Gordon is an intriguing option for the Patriots here, as is nose tackle Jordan Phillips, who could step in to replace Vince Wilfork. But cornerback is the team's biggest need right now after losing Darrelle Revis and Brandon Browner in free agency, and Jones has elite tools for the position. He has very good size, range and athleticism (including a ridiculous broad jump of 12 feet, 3 inches and a nearly-as-impressive vertical of 44.5 inches), and while he needs to improve his patience and anticipation skills, he is a hard worker who should take well to coaching.
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:11 pm to
interesting
Posted by blkhawktiger
Glad All Over
Member since Nov 2011
2014 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:14 pm to
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The Titans have Mettenberger. They should look elsewhere. Give Mettenberger Copper instead.



Had this discussion yesterday with a friend. Look, the last thing this team needs is to go grab another WR in the first round, let alone with the second overall pick.

The private workout and the latest Whiz interview makes it seem like the Titans are trying to convince the rest of the league that they are entertaining the idea of taking Mariota. I don't think they will or that they should for that matter. But I think it's a bluff to entice trade possibilities so that the Titans can move back around 8-10 and accumulate picks. This team needs so much help it's not even funny. The more picks the better.

Of course, this will create a lot of pressure on draft day for a front office that is known for panicking and doesn't have clear leadership right now with Smith stepping down, though I'm not sure he ever did much in regards to the draft. If they can't get what they want to trade the pick, I think they'll be happy (and rightfully so) to take Leo Williams. As a Titans fan, that is who I want as well.

But I'm nervous as hell already and just want it to be over with.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 8:16 pm
Posted by DriveByBBQ
Willard's Garage
Member since Jan 2011
4608 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:17 pm to
Packers?

Ravens?

TIA
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65775 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:30 pm to
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26 Jaelen Strong Baltimore Ravens (10-6) COLLEGE: Arizona State Class: Jr HT: 6-2 WT: 217 POS: WR
Analysis: The Ravens' priorities in this draft have to be upgrading at cornerback and safety, but they could also go with a wide receiver, running back or pass-rusher here depending on how the board shakes out. I have them taking Strong in this scenario as a big-play target to replace Torrey Smith opposite Steve Smith Sr. Strong isn't the burner Torrey Smith was and takes a little time to build up speed, but his 4.44 40 and 42-inch vertical leap are good numbers for a player his size (6-2, 217 pounds), and he shows the ability to separate when the ball is in the air and come down with contested catches.

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30 Marcus Peters Green Bay Packers (12-4) COLLEGE: Washington Class: Jr HT: 5-11 WT: 197 POS: CB
Analysis: The Packers have a need at cornerback after losing both Davon House and Tramon Williams in free agency, and the value matches up well here with Peters (No. 21 on our board). He brings with him some off-field baggage after multiple suspensions and run-ins with coaches at Washington, but I think at this point he's worth the risk. Purely based off of tape study, he's the best corner in this class, with very good size, strength, natural athleticism and playmaking instincts.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
33734 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

This whole thing between White and Coop was so predictable. Coop goes entire season as the consensus #1, season ends then people fall in love with White, and as we move towards the draft everyone has Coop going before him.



yeah, I think Cooper is the best in this years WR class.

I just wonder how Kevin White will translate to the NFL. Some other WR's who have come out of West Virginia recently haven't really done much.

Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey did well in the system playing in West Virginia but have been subpar WR's so far in the NFL with the Rams.

but a lot of that is because the Rams always seem to have QB issues and they end up being a more ball control offense I guess. So if White were to go to a team like the Rams I don't know if he'd have a big impact.

I think Cooper is the best WR Alabama has ever had. After all the years being force fed Alabama football on TV and radio I think its close but he's better than Julio Jones was in college at least.

but Alabama also made an honest effort to get him the ball and let him showcase his talents. I don't know if Julio Jones got as many opportunities because Jim McElwain was kind of a conservative play caller it seemed like. Greg McElroy was a mediocre talent who just happened to be a real smart guy. He didn't take a lot of chances downfield really. At least from what I remember.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83445 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 3:12 am to
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TTsTowel
I like you.

But you are one sorry arse bitch

Been hating on Coop for MONTHS now it seems. And that's saying a lot. Because....who hates on Coop?

Pretty sure you've seen him play. Nice post though, it wasn't completely useless or anything....
Posted by ehole
in a house
Member since Nov 2010
3373 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 3:14 am to
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Julius Thomas, Allen Robinson, Marquis Lee, Amari Cooper and Justin Blackmon (maybe)? If Jacksonville grabs a nice running back in the 2nd round, they are set on offense.


except that o line who gave up 3rd most sacks and most qb hits... give or take a spot or 2
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83445 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 3:17 am to
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My posts indicate that I loved Kevin White all season. I was raving about him a lot. I even had him on my fantasy football team.
Ya have to draft him? Did ya take him early? Was Coop still on the board?

Because Coop shite on him this year.
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