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re: Mayweather vs Pac-Man
Posted on 1/9/10 at 6:42 pm to WHATDOINO
Posted on 1/9/10 at 6:42 pm to WHATDOINO
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Because most athletes that use are already off the PED's by the time the fight comes around. The new PED's are done prior to fight and cant be detected in the urine test.
and which PEDs can a fighter take that gives him an advantage in the fight but is also able to leave the fighter's system IMMEDIATEDLY after the fight?
Remember, regardless to what date Pac was willing to give blood before the fight, he has always stated he was willing to give blood right after the fight in his dressing room.
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Posted on 1/9/10 at 6:45 pm to WHATDOINO
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This fight is not happening because Pac is hiding something.
whaaaaaa?
Posted on 1/9/10 at 6:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
All Pac-Man. Obviously he is hiding something if he doesn't want to take the blood tests. If he really wanted to fight and had nothing to be afraid of, give as much as you need to to show your the best fighter around
Posted on 1/9/10 at 6:53 pm to GeauxAggie972
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Obviously he is hiding something if he doesn't want to take the blood tests.
he agreed to blood tests
Posted on 1/9/10 at 6:59 pm to el tigre
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he agreed to urine tests at all times, and also agreed to blood tests up to a few days before the fight, as well as immediately after the fight in the locker room.
They talked about the negotiations in depth on Friday Night Fights last night. Pac said he would give blood the day the fight is signed, 24 days before the fight, and immediately after the fight (with as many random urine tests as needed). Mayweather said he wanted blood testing at least 14 days before the fight, not 24. So, its basically the ten day window of blood testing that they cant agree on and is keeping the fight from happening.
Teddy Atlas said he "heard from a reliable source" that someone from Pac's camp emailed someone from Mayweathers camp asking two things: 1) What would happen with the fight and money the fighters were guaranteed if Pac tests positive for a banned substance? 2)If he does test positive, is there a way it can be hidden and not be made public?
Again, Teddy said he didnt see these emails. That is just the story he got.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:00 pm to TTownTiger
interesting. What about Arum's reports that Pac would give blood tests up until 5 days before the fight and immediately after?
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:14 pm to el tigre
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What about Arum's reports that Pac would give blood tests up until 5 days before the fight and immediately after?
I heard Arum say in an interview two weeks ago that he believes he can get Pac to agree to the blood test 14 days out, which Mayweather is now requesting (Manny gave blood for the Hatton fight 14 days out). I personally never heard that Pac agreed to it up until 5 days out and thats not what was reported last night. So who knows??
The two camps presented their cases to a mediator last week with the hopes that the mediator can present a solution to the negotiations. It was in these meetings that Pac agreed to the blood testing 24 days out (originaly he he said he wouldnt give blood within 30 days). Also, it was here where Mayweather agreed to blood testing 14 days out (originally he wanted blood testing 3 days before the fight). So they both gave in a week on their original stances, but were still 10 days off.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:17 pm to el tigre
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interesting. What about Arum's reports that Pac would give blood tests up until 5 days before the fight and immediately after?
You obviously are a Pac fan. Bob Arum is a liar and always has been. The post fight blood test is a sham. Doctors have backed Mayweathers camp on this issue.
We can all argue what is what but the only thing holding this fight up is Pac man not agreeing to random blood test. All the other hoopla is just that. Urine test are obsolete also. This is why olympics testing is so stringent. It has to be random, and has to be blood.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:27 pm to TTownTiger
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Teddy Atlas said he "heard from a reliable source" that someone from Pac's camp emailed someone from Mayweathers camp asking two things: 1) What would happen with the fight and money the fighters were guaranteed if Pac tests positive for a banned substance? 2)If he does test positive, is there a way it can be hidden and not be made public?
A reporter named Ted Smith has reported that also Atlas said.
Bob Arum and the Pac camp also wanted a fight with Paulie Malinagie(spell) right after they first had trouble with this fight and found out that he also has called out Pac. for PEDs. They quickly caught backlash for that and have now went to Yuri Foreman and others. So Mayweather moves to Paulie Malinagie and now Arum and Roach are calling Paulie a nobody and downing Mayweather for going after him.
In my opinion it all boils down to why in the world would you walk away from the biggest payday ever in any sport.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:27 pm to WHATDOINO
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WHATDOINO
Sounds like you are a Mayweather fan, haha. As a hardcore boxing fan all of my life, I can care less who is right or wrong, I just want it to happen.
If you are pointing blame, both sides have valid arguments. How can one boxer, in this case Mayweather, be above the Nevada Athletic Commission laws and regulation? One fighter (or any sports athlete regardless of sport) has never been able to negotiate drug testing that is regulated by the government. Mayweather is not bigger than the commission and is not bigger than boxing, he should have no authority over the drug testing laws. No athlete in any sport can negotiate their own drug testing, period. This isnt an exception.
Also, if Pac doesnt have anything to hide, why not agree to blood testing? He did it 14 days out vs Hatton, why not do that again since that is what MW is now requesting? It sounds fishy like he has something to hide.
So, both sides have valid arguments when trying to assign blame.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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he agreed to blood tests
Not random. And not the time frame that Floyd is asking.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:29 pm to WHATDOINO
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You obviously are a Pac fan.
not at all. Not a big boxing fan at all.
I am just looking at this from a human perspective, and Mayweather is coming off as a bitch.
eta: torn as to who i would want to win this fight.
This post was edited on 1/9/10 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:30 pm to Calculus Entropy
Pac is to blame. Money is not scared to fight. I really think he is doing it to frick with Pac. He probably heard that Pac doesn't like giving blood samples.
Pac is the one preventing this fight. The contract was drawn up and all he had to do was sign. If Olympians can do it, I think Pac can do it.
Pac is the one preventing this fight. The contract was drawn up and all he had to do was sign. If Olympians can do it, I think Pac can do it.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:32 pm to WHATDOINO
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Bob Arum is a liar and always has been.
most promoters are liars.
So is there any definitve proof that Pac will not do a blood test less than a week out, as well as right after the fight? If he is agreeing this then Mayweather is being a total ho.
If Pac will only give blood 24 days out, not the 14 life against Hatton, then that's suspect.
I mean proof, not rumor mill shite.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:33 pm to skullhawk
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I really think he is doing it to frick with Pac. He probably heard that Pac doesn't like giving blood samples.
that's what i have been saying.
so why should Pac agree to shite that will get in his head, and start off with Mayweather winning in head games?
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:35 pm to WHATDOINO
Pac has a deal in place to fight Joshua Clottey in March at the new Cowboys stadium. It isnt signed yet, but both camps have agreed to terms.
Clottey is a hell of a lot tougher test than Paulie M, in my opinion. Regardless, it looks like Pac is holding out signing that contract for a few days to see what Mayweater does. If nothing changes, expect the Clottey fight to be signed by mid of next week.
Clottey is a hell of a lot tougher test than Paulie M, in my opinion. Regardless, it looks like Pac is holding out signing that contract for a few days to see what Mayweater does. If nothing changes, expect the Clottey fight to be signed by mid of next week.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:35 pm to TTownTiger
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Sounds like you are a Mayweather fan, haha. As a hardcore boxing fan all of my life, I can care less who is right or wrong, I just want it to happen
I am also a lifetime boxing fan and want to see this fight. Both fighters are two of the best ever and it needs to happen. I feel Pacman is hiding something. To your point about NAC, they are using testing methods that are very outdated for todays drugs. I don't agree that one boxer isn't bigger than the sport because in this case both of these fighters are at this moment. If this fight happens are not it is a make or break fight for boxing.
I feel the same about golf at this moment. Tiger is bigger than the game of golf. Just look at the numbers when he plays and when he doesn't. The same thing applies for Floyd and Manny. IMHO.
Oh, by the way I am a huge Mayweather guy.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:38 pm to TTownTiger
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Clottey is a hell of a lot tougher test than Paulie M, in my opinion. Regardless, it looks like Pac is holding out signing that contract for a few days to see what Mayweater does. If nothing changes, expect the Clottey fight to be signed by mid of next week.
Clottey is a hell of a lot tougher than Paulie but its kind of chicken shite for Roach to call out Floyd about fighting Paulie when two weeks ago that was the guy they were after.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 7:41 pm to el tigre
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that's what i have been saying. so why should Pac agree to shite that will get in his head, and start off with Mayweather winning in head games?
...but, I am suspicious of Pac now that it has been a deal breaker on his end. The pay day from this fight would secure the financial future of his great grandchildren.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 8:27 pm to skullhawk
Mayweather testing demands kept on changing as it gets agreed to..he just don't wanna fight..don't think it will matter if Pac agree to random blood testing, May prolly come down wit food poisoning the day of the fight
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