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Matt Ryan has 2nd best Fumble/INT rate in history (edit to please 2 people)
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:34 pm
Title change so THO3 and Tigerbait will stop crying.
Matt Ryan is 2nd, right behind Rodgers.
Also on the list, Cam Newton at #4, Breesus at #15
Matt Ryan is 2nd, right behind Rodgers.
Also on the list, Cam Newton at #4, Breesus at #15
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 1:18 pm
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:40 pm to Indfanfromcol
I have to say, wasn't expecting Luck to be that high. His volume makes it seem like he turns it over a whole lot when in fact he's pretty good.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:45 pm to Indfanfromcol
I'm calling BS that Brees has lost 79 fumbles in his career
Where is this from?
Where is this from?
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:49 pm to castorinho
I was a little more surprised about Cam Newton to be honest.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:49 pm to TigerBait1127
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I'm calling BS that Brees has lost 79 fumbles in his career
Where is this from?
Pulled from r/nfl
ETA: Also, according to NFL.com, Brees does indeed have 79 fumbles, with 2009 being his highest with 10.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:51 pm to Indfanfromcol
Thx Matt
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:51 pm to Indfanfromcol
If this gives you comfort in your time of trial, I am happy for you
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:52 pm to brgfather129
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Thx Matt
This is a moral victories thread, not make OP cry thread
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:57 pm to Indfanfromcol
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ETA: Also, according to NFL.com, Brees does indeed have 79 fumbles, with 2009 being his highest with 10.
You're missing what I am saying. I am arguing that a fumble does not equal a turnover
A fumble lost = a turnover.
The Saints had 13 fumbles lost in 2009.
-4 were lost by RBs
-3 were lost by receivers.
So it is wrong.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:02 pm to TigerBait1127
teams didn't need to create turnovers from falcons cause they knew mike smith would frick something up for them.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:03 pm to Indfanfromcol
Look who's number 1 in fumble % 
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:04 pm to Indfanfromcol
The guy who made the spreadsheet is an idiot:
So then don't label it turnover %
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@PP_Rich_Hill All. Recovery is random. Seen some especially bizarre ones this year where I don't know how the team didn't recover.
So then don't label it turnover %
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:06 pm to TigerBait1127
the number are for fumbles it appears, not fumbles lost. not sure why, but it is consistent.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:07 pm to TigerBait1127
I've seen some where the ball never touches the ground, the defender just grabs it from the runner.
I don't think that guy understands anecdotal evidence
I don't think that guy understands anecdotal evidence
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:08 pm to TigerBait1127
Maybe it is talking about an individuals turnover, but not a team turnover?
Guess you could change it to each qbs giveaway rate or just fumble and int rate, but sorta splitting hairs at that point.
Guess you could change it to each qbs giveaway rate or just fumble and int rate, but sorta splitting hairs at that point.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:09 pm to Indfanfromcol
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Maybe it is talking about an individuals turnover, but not a team turnover?
Then you have to figure out how many were recovered immediately by the QB. That's not a random recovery
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:09 pm to Indfanfromcol
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Maybe it is talking about an individuals turnover, but not a team turnover?
How is it a turnover if it never changes your team's possession?
By your definition, a completion is a turnover.
By his standards, a low snap or a snap over the QB's head goes against his TO% when the play isn't even dead
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:11 pm to TH03
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Then you have to figure out how many were recovered immediately by the QB. That's not a random recovery
I wouldn't think so. Still turned the ball over, regardless if recovered. Just he gave it away, then recovered. I would put those as 2 different stats.
But I can see your point too.
Still IMO splitting hairs.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:12 pm to Indfanfromcol
If he recovered it, he didn't turn it over.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:15 pm to TigerBait1127
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How is it a turnover if it never changes your team's possession?
How is an individuals turnover different from a teams turnover?
I mean, I don't think that is a hard concept.
A individual turns the ball over is when someone who as an individual, has a turnover. His teammate can still recover. But that individual lost the ball.
Team turnover is when the ball goes to the other team.
Would yall get your panties out of a bunch if I changed the title to Fumble/INT rate?
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