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re: Mark Cuban's Bold Comments on Race

Posted on 5/22/14 at 6:45 pm to
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 6:45 pm to
#dontusecommonsensethesedaysoryourearacistpieceofshit
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 6:46 pm
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

Here's a link to Cuban's twitter: LINK



Geez, Cuban needs to stop responding to the idiots.




But this was awesome

Bomani Jones tweeted this:

quote:

Bomani Jones
@bomani_jones
cuban did punk out with that “i’m scared of white guys with tattoos” point, too. not the same as a hooded sweatshirt, slugger.


Cuban responded:


quote:

Mark Cuban
@mcuban
. @bomani_jones what would make you cross the street in fear late at night? Anything?



Jones answered:

quote:

Bomani Jones
@bomani_jones
@mcuban not a person, no. as i said, if it’s like that, the person’s coming with you. i’m not that fast or in running shame. it’d be futile.


then he added:


quote:

Bomani Jones
@bomani_jones
@mcuban i’m not fearless. but i’m not crossing the street. past that, though: damn sure not cuz someone’s got a hoodie on.

@mcuban and i say that as someone who’s been robbed at gunpoint by someone in a hoodie.



to which someone posted this:

quote:

Clay
@helloiamclay
@bomani_jones Maybe cross the street next time?







Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 6:48 pm to
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14607 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 7:09 pm to
Cuban has apologized to Travons Family about the Hoodie comment.


So the term hoodie is off limits?
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 7:23 pm to
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So the term hoodie is off limits?


Of course.

They are now to be called, extra head piece sweaters.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61313 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 7:27 pm to
Bomani gettin owned
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 7:31 pm
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 7:30 pm to
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So the term hoodie is off limits?
do you get double racist points if you use the term hoodie on Monday?
Posted by Billder
Where you live
Member since Nov 2009
5248 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

Mark Cuban's Common Sense Comments on Race


Fify
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

quote:
Mark Cuban's Common Sense Comments on Race



mark cuban's self-aggrandizing holier than thou because I am more guilty than you liberal horsesjit comments on race

FIFY

frick him
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 9:25 pm to
quote:

frick him


Seconded.

On principle.

I don't care for the mavs
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 9:36 pm to
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So do we need to teach our young children that it doesn't matter if someone looks thug, (hoodies at night on the street, pants sagging around your peepee, tattoos from head to toe, hard stares from dumb looking people) but the only thing that matters is what's in a thugs heart. So go ahead and hang out in areas with these examples. You might just learn some tough love? frick bo**** Jones.


That wasn't Jones' point at all. Bomani jones simply asked why all I black guy has to do make Cuban afraid is wear a hoodie but a white guy has to get tats on his face.

At worse he simply acknowledged the bias that Cuban said we all had, but when Jones tried to apply to Cuban specifically using his own words Cuban went into defense mode and denied that is what he meant. Don't blame Cuban that much either considering the climate, but Cubans 2 comparisons were biased.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 9:47 pm to
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That wasn't Jones' point at all.


Did he really even have a point? Or was just blinded by the word hoodie?

I don't know what bomoni said. I just read his dumb arse tweets that were posted in this thread. About how he was robbed by a guy wearing hoodie once.


If you can't comprehend what Cuban meant by his words, I'm sorry.

If he would have said "if I see a black guy at night wearing a hoodie I cross the street, if I see a white guy at night wearing a hoodie on the other side, ill just walk in the middle of the street. Would that help you out?

quote:

all I black guy has to do make Cuban afraid is wear a hoodie but a white guy has to get tats on his face.


Can you even see tatoos on a black mans face at night?
He just used two different examples off the top of his head that seemed comparable in his head at the time. Then gets jumped by the ratings drivin media. He shoulda just put both in a hoodie and then people like would not have a dumbass argument.
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 10:06 pm
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

Did he really even have a point? Or was just blinded by the word hoodie? I don't know what bomoni said.


If you don't want to take thr time to inform yourself before having the discussion I don't want take the time to have the discussion with you.

Vaya con dios mi amigo
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 10:04 pm
Posted by reb13
Member since May 2010
10905 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:06 pm to
I hate the mavs, a lot. But Cuban is a boss and he gives zero fricks
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:07 pm to
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:13 pm to
Anybody wearing a hoodie at night makes me worry, sorry.

Anyone with tats all over their both makes me work too.

Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27873 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:28 pm to
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That wasn't Jones' point at all. Bomani jones simply asked why all I black guy has to do make Cuban afraid is wear a hoodie but a white guy has to get tats on his face.
Maybe he needs to think about why many white people feel that way. It's not that they are racist.

Bomani Jones is acting like he can't for the life of him figure out why white people would be cautious of black people dressed a certain way.

And for the record, white criminals don't have a particular look. It could be anybody. So the only thing that would make white people cautious of other white people is something obvious like face tattoos. For a black guy, a hoodie and baggy pants might be enough for white people to think that person looks thuggish.

All it is is judging people based on how they look. Everybody does it.

You judge if somebody looks like a nerd. Or if they look like an athlete. Or whatever. If somebody is 6'10", you might think they play basketball.

Has nothing to do with racism.

This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 10:31 pm
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:39 pm to
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35461 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:06 pm to
Why can't anyone just say the truth. Hoodie or no hoodie, any semi-shady looking black guy is getting profiled until violent crime statistics change. If you're not profiling them then you're an idiot.
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:10 pm to
quote:

For a black guy, a hoodie and baggy pants might be enough for white people to think that person looks thuggish.


You're putting things in the hypo that weren't discussed by either Cuban or Jones. Don't attribute your fears, whether deserved or not, to these people who never mentioned them.

quote:

All it is is judging people based on how they look. Everybody does it.


Yep but when Bomani tried to apply to it Cubans own words Cuban backed off that..


Wearing a hoodie isn't a trait of criminal behavior unless you are associating some other characteristic with it, Cuban choose to associate being black with that.

Having face tattoos isn't a 100% proof of criminal behavior or even intent to commit a future crime but it certainly is a external trait that is more closely attuned with criminals, of any race, than wearing a hoodie.

quote:

All it is is judging people based on how they look. Everybody does it. You judge if somebody looks like a nerd. Or if they look like an athlete. Or whatever. If somebody is 6'10", you might think they play basketball.

Has nothing to do with racism



Really?! You're gonna sit there and tell me people make judgments on all those external characteristics of people from their clothes, tats, body composition, and height but we don't include race? We all see everything BUT color?

Everybody is a little bit racist, me you and even Mark Cuban but when called out on it he backed off it. That bias doesn't make Cuban a monster either but before we can fix the issue we have to acknowledge it is an issue.
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