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re: Manning not really breaking Drew's record should be a hot point of discussion
Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:34 am to southernelite
Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:34 am to southernelite
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Just because Manning threw 1 interception in a game he was down 2 touchdowns makes Brees a better QB?
The Colts were down 7 and driving when Manning threw the pick 6.
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Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:35 am to southernelite
Eta: 
at Speedy's review all of Brees' passes comment. They already did.
at Speedy's review all of Brees' passes comment. They already did.This post was edited on 12/31/13 at 12:36 am
Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:37 am to SPEEDY
quote:Probably because it's so close.
So why is this a story then if the NFL does this on the reg?
The NFL and Elias go through the games each week and check the stats for accuracy. There's stat corrections pretty much every week.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:39 am to The Boat
Still, Manning throwing one INT defines his whole career and basis of argument in Drew's favor?
No. They both have a Super Bowl win. Drew's just so happened to be over Manning's colts. Another year Manning could have very well beaten the Saints. Its stupid to use one head to head game to make an argument about either of them as a QB.
No. They both have a Super Bowl win. Drew's just so happened to be over Manning's colts. Another year Manning could have very well beaten the Saints. Its stupid to use one head to head game to make an argument about either of them as a QB.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:43 am to OneMoreTime
They aren't going to overturn this. Its not really definitive. Its going to be like a replay review, call on the field stands.
What's also ridiculous about this argument, is the very nature of the play, so a screen that the QB is under center is most likely a lateral and a rushing play, but when done out of the shotgun is a passing play?
It's just a stupid thing to gripe about. He threw the ball just like a pass, it should matter whether it went forward, straight down the line, or backwards.
What's also ridiculous about this argument, is the very nature of the play, so a screen that the QB is under center is most likely a lateral and a rushing play, but when done out of the shotgun is a passing play?
It's just a stupid thing to gripe about. He threw the ball just like a pass, it should matter whether it went forward, straight down the line, or backwards.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:46 am to southernelite
quote:
Its not really definitive
Except it really is.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:47 am to southernelite
quote:
They aren't going to overturn this.
they might
quote:
Its not really definitive.
yes, yes it is. only a Peyton Manning fan boy would argue otherwise.
quote:
Its going to be like a replay review, call on the field stands.
which is a shame because it taints the record and basically means that Manning's "record" needs a big next to it.
This post was edited on 12/31/13 at 12:49 am
Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:48 am to southernelite
quote:I think there's enough there to overturn it, but I agree, they probably won't.
They aren't going to overturn this. Its not really definitive. Its going to be like a replay review, call on the field stands.
quote:If this was the rule then a backwards, incomplete pass wouldn't be a fumble.
It's just a stupid thing to gripe about. He threw the ball just like a pass, it should matter whether it went forward, straight down the line, or backwards
Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:49 am to HideChaKidz
quote:
Godell phoned it in
Buffalo Wild Wings Style
Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:50 am to AlienYall
Perhaps you guys missed the ESPN article explaining that it was not definitive. An overhead angle shows the ball going forward while the side angle makes it seem like a lateral.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:52 am to LeonPhelps
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Perhaps you guys missed the ESPN article explaining that it was not definitive. An overhead angle shows the ball going forward while the side angle makes it seem like a lateral.
perhaps you didn't see the dozens upon dozens of legit news sources saying otherwise.
IF it was not "definitive" because of an overhead angle, then why not show it? where is this footage? because the only footage out there clearly shows it was a lateral.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:52 am to LeonPhelps
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Perhaps you guys missed the ESPN article explaining that it was not definitive. An overhead angle shows the ball going forward while the side angle makes it seem like a lateral.
There is another angle showing this ball moving forward?
Then why does ESPN not put this to rest with their other angle.
This post was edited on 12/31/13 at 12:54 am
Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:55 am to Tactical1
quote:
Then why does ESPN not put this to rest with their other angle.
because it doesn't help push the Manning propaganda that they want to sell.
Manning is incredible. possibly the best ever .... but the record is tainted. not legit whatsoever.
This post was edited on 12/31/13 at 12:56 am
Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:57 am to Tactical1
Release at the 49, caught at the 48 if not the 47 1/2. Pretty clearly a lateral
Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:59 am to Tactical1
This is the quote from the ESPN article.
"Another angle, from above, shows Decker receiving the ball at the Broncos' 48-yard line, with Manning slightly deeper than that."
But where Manning is when the ball is caught doesn't mean jack shite. The only thing that matters is where Manning releases the ball.
"Another angle, from above, shows Decker receiving the ball at the Broncos' 48-yard line, with Manning slightly deeper than that."
But where Manning is when the ball is caught doesn't mean jack shite. The only thing that matters is where Manning releases the ball.
This post was edited on 12/31/13 at 1:03 am
Posted on 12/31/13 at 1:01 am to OneMoreTime
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If this was the rule then a backwards, incomplete pass wouldn't be a fumble.
I get that, just saying maybe it should be evaluated. Maybe it should be only under pitches are laterals, and anything thrown over the shoulder should be a pass. My point is, why should an under center bubble screen be treated statistically difference than any other screen?
Obviously thats not the rule now, but maybe it should be looked at.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 1:03 am to Aced
quote:
This is the quote from the ESPN article. "Another angle, from above, shows Decker receiving the ball at the Broncos' 48-yard line, with Manning slightly deeper than that." But where Manning is when the ball is caught doesn't mean jack shite. The only thing that matters is where Manning releases the ball.
and as expected this mysterious footage that ESPN claims to have seen is nowhere to be found. why? because it's bullshite.
they're just doing everything they can to protect Manning in this situation.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 1:11 am to AlienYall
Manning having this record is no slight to drew. I would doubt they take the record over something as so trivial.
Imagine if Drew amassed the record in that manner, I'd imagine Saints fans would be brushing it off saying they should leave it be. I know I would be saying that if the roles were reversed.
Imagine if Drew amassed the record in that manner, I'd imagine Saints fans would be brushing it off saying they should leave it be. I know I would be saying that if the roles were reversed.
Posted on 12/31/13 at 1:21 am to southernelite
Posted on 12/31/13 at 1:24 am to AlienYall
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and as expected this mysterious footage that ESPN claims to have seen is nowhere to be found. why? because it's bullshite. they're just doing everything they can to protect Manning in this situation.
I bet if you went back thru every single play Brees made the year he broke the record you could find a few yards he didn't deserve. Manning would have kept playing if he hadn't broke the record but since the NFL told him he did he sat. It would be total BS if they took the record away from him.
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