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re: Manning, Brees, Brady, etc career playoff record/PPG
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:14 pm to VerlanderBEAST
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:14 pm to VerlanderBEAST
quote:haha...you crack me up. So you literally think that Peyton Manning bears zero responsibility for his playoff failures? It's all because he didn't have a good enough kicker, or defense, or enough Pro Bowl WRs, RBs or OL? Nothing he did resulted in his team's failures?
Dude the facts are right in front of you. The Patriots are better at everything that doesn't have to do with Quarterback play that is why they are more successful in the playoffs
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Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:23 pm to hashtag
quote:Difference is when he plays bade his team usually losses. When Brady plays bad his team usually wins
So you literally think that Peyton Manning bears zero responsibility for his playoff failures?
Posted on 1/13/14 at 4:36 pm to VerlanderBEAST
You really trying to argue that the guy with the most playoff losses and int's of all time is better than the guy with the most playoff wins and TD's?
You're as dumb as advertised.
You're as dumb as advertised.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 6:34 pm to Urban OhiO
quote:You are to simple to realize wins losses should never be used to judge the individual greatness of a player. It is clear that manning and Brady are almost identical in the playoffs. If a kicker was 5 for 5 in the playoffs with zero wins and the other was 0 for 5 with 3 wins, who was better? Your dense Yankee arse is arguing the 0 for 5 kicker is better
You really trying to argue that the guy with the most playoff losses and int's of all time is better than the guy with the most playoff wins and TD's? You're as dumb as advertised.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 6:41 pm to Urban OhiO
quote:Peyton and Brady have the same number of playoff ints dumbfrick
You really trying to argue that the guy with the most playoff losses and int's of all time is better than the guy with the most playoff wins and TD's?
Posted on 1/13/14 at 9:01 pm to VerlanderBEAST
I have never understood why people try to compare manning and brady. I have never understood why anyone tries to compare any qb. They don't even play each other directly.
There is negatives for both qb's and I dislike them both as a ravens fan. I have no preference for manning or brady since my team is usually playing them regularly. Both of them have historically been average against my team.
Brady is thought of as historically clutch in leading his team to victory or whatever in the super bowl. He has 3 and I can not fault him for that. But those 3 were not all brady. He performed when he had to. Please don't get me wrong. He did it, when it really counted. But he has not done it when he has had the weapons and he put up all the stats. He had a defense and special teams when he won. He had Moss and Welker and put up all the stats, yet didn't win the big one on his own.
Peyton is great, great, great in the regular season. Yet, we all have an idea of what happens in the playoffs. Let us be honest, yesterday watching him against the chargers, near the end of that game we were all expecting him to frick it up. Unless your the biggest peyton fan you were just waiting for him to frick it up. Don't get it twisted, he didn't this time. But we were all expecting it to happen. There is a reason why.
The whole point of this diatribe is to try to show people that they are both great qb's. That every team currently would sellout almost everything for (maybe not the saints, packers or whoever)
We are in a salary cap league. A league of parity. I think it is great for small market teams. I think its great for fans if you have the proper front office/ownership/coach. Yet, we also have a league where offense is designed to excel. Compare rules from the 1950's to today.
I will never understand why we need to compare all the qb's of every era. I will never understand why people don't consider bart star, johnny unitas or frick it marino or fouts as the goat. Why is manning better than star? Why is brady better than unitas? The old school qbs didn't have the strength and conditioning programs, the game tape or any of those advantages that modern day qbs have.
That's not to say we cant compare modern qb's to the old ones. Shite maybe manning and brady are top 5 or whatever. I just don't know how you can honestly compare both. I mean shite, if you really want to play the playoff records and stats I can bring up flacco from last year (my qb) and laugh. He isn't the goat but he excelled.
VerlanderBEAST, my post wasnt directed at you directly.
Ohhhh yeah. frick all you I am new and I hate you all. Hahaha
There is negatives for both qb's and I dislike them both as a ravens fan. I have no preference for manning or brady since my team is usually playing them regularly. Both of them have historically been average against my team.
Brady is thought of as historically clutch in leading his team to victory or whatever in the super bowl. He has 3 and I can not fault him for that. But those 3 were not all brady. He performed when he had to. Please don't get me wrong. He did it, when it really counted. But he has not done it when he has had the weapons and he put up all the stats. He had a defense and special teams when he won. He had Moss and Welker and put up all the stats, yet didn't win the big one on his own.
Peyton is great, great, great in the regular season. Yet, we all have an idea of what happens in the playoffs. Let us be honest, yesterday watching him against the chargers, near the end of that game we were all expecting him to frick it up. Unless your the biggest peyton fan you were just waiting for him to frick it up. Don't get it twisted, he didn't this time. But we were all expecting it to happen. There is a reason why.
The whole point of this diatribe is to try to show people that they are both great qb's. That every team currently would sellout almost everything for (maybe not the saints, packers or whoever)
We are in a salary cap league. A league of parity. I think it is great for small market teams. I think its great for fans if you have the proper front office/ownership/coach. Yet, we also have a league where offense is designed to excel. Compare rules from the 1950's to today.
I will never understand why we need to compare all the qb's of every era. I will never understand why people don't consider bart star, johnny unitas or frick it marino or fouts as the goat. Why is manning better than star? Why is brady better than unitas? The old school qbs didn't have the strength and conditioning programs, the game tape or any of those advantages that modern day qbs have.
That's not to say we cant compare modern qb's to the old ones. Shite maybe manning and brady are top 5 or whatever. I just don't know how you can honestly compare both. I mean shite, if you really want to play the playoff records and stats I can bring up flacco from last year (my qb) and laugh. He isn't the goat but he excelled.
VerlanderBEAST, my post wasnt directed at you directly.
Ohhhh yeah. frick all you I am new and I hate you all. Hahaha
Posted on 1/13/14 at 9:43 pm to fowditty
I'm not gonna try and argue who is the better QB, just wanted to point out that I've seen the Patriots win quite a few game where Brady had a "poor game". I've seen very few games where Peyton's team wins if he has a "poor game"
Posted on 1/13/14 at 10:12 pm to Rittdog
Teams don't win games.
QBs win games.
::Trent Dilfer pumps fist::
QBs win games.
::Trent Dilfer pumps fist::
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