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re: Magic @ Cavs Game 1 Thread

Posted on 5/20/09 at 10:54 pm to
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 5/20/09 at 10:54 pm to
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Now I'm not sure about the coaching but the players around Lebron are legit


Tonight they weren't.

Lebron- 20/30
the Rest- 23/59(despite TONS of wide open looks)
Posted by ike221
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/20/09 at 10:54 pm to
The Cavs are still the best defensive team in the NBA

That's what wins games

I wouldn't criticize Lebrons teammates in saying that he has no supporting cast when a few don't make the shots they normally would

Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 5/20/09 at 10:55 pm to
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He had ZERO momentum.


Give me a break. Lebron could have thrown ANYTHING up and he would have ended up on the free throw line.

Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/20/09 at 10:58 pm to
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Give me a break. Lebron could have thrown ANYTHING up and he would have ended up on the free throw line


The possession before(I think) his 3 point play that fouled Howard out, he wont to the rack and didn't get a foul call.
Posted by 2010LSU
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/20/09 at 11:00 pm to
are you seriously tryin to say that lebron couldnt get a shot of with an iso? no jumper? nothing?

c'mon. dude should have shot it regardless of how tired he was. when you are shooting that well, u take the ball yourself.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 5/20/09 at 11:06 pm to
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he wont to the rack and didn't get a foul call


I have no idea what you are saying.

The play before Lebron drove, threw up an uncontested shot, untouched, and Howard fouled out.

You really think that the refs would have swallowed their whistles had Lebron made ANY attempt at shooting?

We all know the answer to that question.
This post was edited on 5/20/09 at 11:07 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/20/09 at 11:06 pm to
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are you seriously tryin to say that lebron couldnt get a shot of with an iso? no jumper? nothing?


I'm not sure what you mean.

On the play, Lebron drove, and he and Pietrus kinda got tangled up. Pietrus fell, and Lebron stumbled.

When lebron got his balance back, he was barely moving and had a defender right in his face, he didnt have enough momentum to go flying around in teh air like he usually does when he has a head full of steam.

He made the right play.

Did Jordan make the wrong play when he passed to Paxson in the NBA Finals??? Or any other time Paxson or Kerr hit COUNTLESS big shots????
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/20/09 at 11:08 pm to
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threw up an uncontested shot


So, now the play where Howard fouled out was an UNCONTEST shot?

Posted by theunknownknight
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Member since Sep 2005
60899 posts
Posted on 5/20/09 at 11:10 pm to
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He made the right play.

Did Jordan make the wrong play when he passed to Paxson in the NBA Finals??? Or any other time Paxson or Kerr hit COUNTLESS big shots????


So let me get this straight:

You spend all you posts slamming Lebron's teammates saying they didn't show up tonight. THEN you say he made the right call deferring to them?

Which is it? If they were so bad tonight, the right thing would be for Lebron to take it to the hole, throw up a junk shot, and go to the line. If they weren't so bad, then Lebron did the right thing but Orlando is just a better team.
This post was edited on 5/20/09 at 11:11 pm
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/20/09 at 11:10 pm to
"We know why he's named Johnson"
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60899 posts
Posted on 5/20/09 at 11:12 pm to
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So, now the play where Howard fouled out was an UNCONTEST shot?


Uh...yeah.

As in throwing his hands up, backing up, purposefully trying not to make contact.

Unless of course you didn't watch the end of the game, which would explain your posts.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112823 posts
Posted on 5/20/09 at 11:13 pm to
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You spend all you posts slamming Lebron's teammates saying they didn't show up tonight


1st of all, let's try not to exaggerate too much.

quote:

. THEN you say he made the right call deferring to them?


Delonte wasn't playing well overall, but he was 3 of 7 from the 3 point line before that shot.

And again, when Jordan does it, he's great. When Lebron does it, "he choked" or "he's too scared to put up the shot"

That's how it works.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59893 posts
Posted on 5/20/09 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

theunknownknight



You can't blame Lebron tonight, but if you think he'll ever be blamed before a. his teammates and b. his coach, you are lying to yourself. The teammate excuse is ready-made for this team if they don't win the championship.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112823 posts
Posted on 5/20/09 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

Uh...yeah.

As in throwing his hands up, backing up, purposefully trying not to make contact.

Unless of course you didn't watch the end of the game, which would explain your posts


1. I NEVER said I thought he was fouled.

2. You OBVIOUSLY dont know what an uncontested shot means if you think Lebron driving, drawing contact on Howard, then shooting over him is an uncontested shot.

I seriously hope you're joking when you say that.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/20/09 at 11:15 pm to
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but if you think he'll ever be blamed before a. his teammates and b. his coach, you are lying to yourself.


I blamed him after his woeful game 1 performance against the Celtics last year, so there ya go.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59893 posts
Posted on 5/20/09 at 11:16 pm to
quote:

I blamed him after his woeful game 1 performance against the Celtics last year, so there ya go.



I'd like to see somebody man up and do that this year if they don't win it all.

It's plain to see that if the Lakers don't win the championship, it will be Kobe's fault, but if the Cavs don't win the championship, it will be because Lebron's teammates aren't good enough even though people have been saying all year that they were.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60899 posts
Posted on 5/20/09 at 11:17 pm to
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And again, when Jordan does it, he's great. When Lebron does it, "he choked" or "he's too scared to put up the shot"

That's how it works.


Are you, a Kobe hater, actually going to try and pull the double standard card in Lebron's defense?

Kobe has been getting this double standard since his fall from grace from people just like you. Now, in one questionable play, you pull that very card.

Lebron is not being SLAMMED by the analyst for not taking the last shot. In fact, they are barely mentioning it.
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
38891 posts
Posted on 5/20/09 at 11:18 pm to
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So, now the play where Howard fouled out was an UNCONTEST shot?


I feel this way too. Howard definitely just put his arms up and backed away. Lebron jumped into him. Also, Lebron and Pietrus didn't get tangled up. Lebron elbowed him and he may or may not have flopped to the floor. The elbow was definitely thrown into his chest either way.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112823 posts
Posted on 5/20/09 at 11:19 pm to
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I'd like to see somebody man up and do that this year if they don't win it all


Well, that depends.

If he plays like this, or similar, and they lose to the Magic, ANYONE would be a fool to assign blame to him.

If he plays poorly in the next few games, he will definitely get assigned blame.

quote:

it will be Kobe's fault, but if the Cavs don't win the championship, it will be because Lebron's teammates aren't good enough even though people have been saying all year that they were.


Maybe for others, but not me.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112823 posts
Posted on 5/20/09 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

Kobe has been getting this double standard since his fall from grace from people just like you. Now, in one questionable play, you pull that very card.

Lebron is not being SLAMMED by the analyst for not taking the last shot. In fact, they are barely mentioning it.


WHO is talking about the analysts???

I've seen multiple posts on here tonight saying Lebron choked.

So, I truly have zero idea what your last post just meant.

quote:


Kobe has been getting this double standard since his fall from grace from people just like you. Now, in one questionable play, you pull that very card.


I also have zero idea what this means.
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