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re: Louisiana High School Football will split Public/Private. **Edited with Yes/No**

Posted on 1/26/13 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by Interception
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Posted on 1/26/13 at 3:08 pm to
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Louisiana Principals Demean and DIminish High School Football


To be fair if the coaches would have voted the outcome would have been similar. Just saying
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
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Posted on 1/26/13 at 3:20 pm to
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ND recruit- Yes


LOL u dumb.

90% of their students attended school in the Acadia parish catholic school system their whole lives.

You still didnt explain how they dont get the best talent in the area while still recruiting.

Again i'll just keep going with you're dumb.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 1/26/13 at 3:24 pm to
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What about Jennings, Rayne, Iota, and the other kids they rip away?


Kids that never had intentions of going to any school other than ND.

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Have you ever been to a homecoming at ND? When they announce where the students are from nobody is from Crowley.


Yes....hence I know you are full of shite.
Posted by yallallcrazy
Member since Oct 2007
764 posts
Posted on 1/26/13 at 3:40 pm to
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Not only that, it's a bunch of moderately athletic white kids who are just well coached and disciplined. Ever hear about any NCAA players coming out of


This exactly. My sons play for a 2A private that is always at a huge disadvantage athletically. Yes, we are decent. But not great at all. Every week we are seriously outmanned, yet we win. We have a very small coaching staff and actually rely a little bit on volunteer coaches.

How the hell are we doing anything wrong? If someone is recruiting, bust their arse. And yes, a private can have a student come in from outside the correlating public school district, but the kid has to sit a year. Moist of the "recruiting" venom is BS. The difference is mostly disciplined play.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 1/26/13 at 3:51 pm to
I laugh when someone says Notre Dame recruits. If they recruited so much, you'd think they'd have thought to bring in someone over 6' from time to time.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/26/13 at 3:53 pm to
Sample D1 Select playoff bracket using 2012 state rankings from calpreps

1 Rummel vs. 270 Ben Franklin
2 Karr vs. 241 McDonogh
3 Curtis vs. 235 Miller McCoy
4 Parkview vs. 233 Clark
9 Holy Cross vs. 207 Lusher
10 Catholic BR vs. 199 Thomas Jefferson
12 St. Augustine vs. 157 Loyola Prep
15 Teurlings vs. 134 De La Salle
18 Evangel vs. 127 St. Michael's
19 Byrd vs. 111 St. Louis
20 Notre Dame vs. 103 E.D. White
22 St. Thomas More vs. 101 Brother Martin
24 St. Paul vs. 81 Warren Easton
26 Jesuit vs. 60 Shaw
30 University vs. 53 St. Charles Catholic
35 O.P. Walker vs. 40 Vandebilt Catholic

it screams to be reduced to 16... how you determine them, idk
This post was edited on 1/26/13 at 3:55 pm
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 1/26/13 at 3:55 pm to
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270 Ben Franklin
quote:

199 Thomas Jefferson


I don't think they play for postseason. TJ will in the near future, but I don't think they do right now.
Posted by CyrustheVirus
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Posted on 1/26/13 at 4:03 pm to
They have not in the past. i don't know what they will do now.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/26/13 at 4:05 pm to
if they keep a 32 team postseason, those schools might forfeit round 1 and keep their own district...
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 1/26/13 at 4:20 pm to
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If they recruited so much, you'd think they'd have thought to bring in someone over 6' from time to time.


No shite lol.....I love how people say if a guy from Church Point goes to ND he was recruited.....the fact of the matter is that kid probably started school in Crowley at St Micheals Elementary.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/26/13 at 4:24 pm to
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I love how people say if a guy from Church Point goes to ND he was recruited.....the fact of the matter is that kid probably started school in Crowley at St Micheals Elementary


I can count on one hand the number of people from CP that I knew of that went to St M.... OMP.. on the other hand.. then to ND different story. IF ND recruits they sure missed on Tony C and Mark C.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 1/26/13 at 4:26 pm to
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I love how people say if a guy from Church Point goes to ND he was recruited


Half the people I know that went to ND were from CP, and they went there because their parents went there, not because they were recruited.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 1/26/13 at 4:26 pm to
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I can count on one hand the number of people from CP that I knew of that went to St M.... OMP.. on the other hand.. then to ND different story.


Still a kid that never even had a thought to go to Church Point High.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 1/26/13 at 4:30 pm to
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Half the people I know that went to ND were from CP, and they went there because their parents went there, not because they were recruited.


Saw about 20 folks I knew from CP at dome with kids at ND. 7 went to ND... The rest CP and ABW/Belmont.

but those same folks if lived anywhere else would send their kids to private schools now.

It is kinda funny that many of their best players are from CP. When CP has been weak for a loooonggg time.
Posted by yallallcrazy
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/26/13 at 4:38 pm to
Problem is that much of the difference is due to things separate from recruiting of stud athletes.

In sports outside of football and basketball, participation outside of school is a huge factor ( think soccer, LL baseball, golf, tennis). The type of parents that are involved enough to get their kids doing these things are also usually interested in being involved in their education.

In football, disciplined play is a huge advantage. My kids go to a private. We have small, slow, short white kids. We win a lot, though. Why? Discipline. Kids show up for practice. Summer conditioning turnout is pretty much universal. Parents and kids give a shite.
I talked to a friend who coaches at a local public. They have athletes light-years ahead of us, yet we played them and won. He said they had about 10 kids come to summer conditioning and August practice. 40 or so didn't come at all until school started. Most live close enough to walk.

If recruiting is your issue, then stop the recruiting. But most privates are pretty decent o good with less athletic kids simply because they work at being good.
Posted by CyrustheVirus
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/26/13 at 4:46 pm to
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But most privates are pretty decent o good with less athletic kids simply because they work at being good.


This can't be true. the only reason for the "difference" in schools is that private schools cheat and recruit. These poor public schools don't stand a chance against the privates. Why can't you see that its just not fair?

signed,
the principal at Winnfield.
This post was edited on 1/26/13 at 5:00 pm
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
71091 posts
Posted on 1/26/13 at 4:47 pm to
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ABW/Belmont.

but those same folks if lived anywhere else would send their kids to private schools now.


Yep.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
48163 posts
Posted on 1/26/13 at 4:53 pm to
Sample 32 team bracket for small selects using 2012 calpreps state ratings

23 Ouachita Christian vs. 230 Sophie B. Wright
37 Calvary Baptist vs. 225 St. Mary's Natchitoches
58 Carver vs. 224 St. John's Plaquemine
76 Riverside vs. 222 Delhi Charter
82 Catholic-NI vs. 218 St. Edmund
83 Vermilion Catholic vs. 214 Catholic-PC
106 Westminster Christian vs. 212 St. Frederick
109 Episcopal-BR vs. 211 Madison Prep
110 Southern Lab vs. 210 Opelousas Catholic
133 Cedar Creek vs. 209 Sacred Heart-VP
138 Covenant Christian vs. 202 Hannan
140 Newman vs. 201 Christian Life
150 St. Thomas Aquinas vs. 192 Menard
154 Northlake Christian vs. 191 Ascension Catholic
168 Country Day vs. 190 Central Catholic
172 Dunham vs. 182 Pope John Paul

Redemptorist and their bad season would have been the next team after Wright
Posted by CyrustheVirus
Member since Jan 2013
2870 posts
Posted on 1/26/13 at 4:55 pm to
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chalmetteowl


Thanks for posting these. Good to look at.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48357 posts
Posted on 1/26/13 at 5:16 pm to
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Removing football, over 60% of the boys state champs in past 10 years were private schools. When the study examined women's sports it's 67% of the time private schools are winning state championships.


Private schools dominate wrestling. Do you honestly think they are recruiting kids to wrestle?

Of course not. They just have people more dedicated to a program. And therein lies the problem with this proposal, it's not about an advantage in recruiting, it's about have more dedicated people in private schools.
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