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Looking back at the Stanton contract, how stupid was it?
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:36 pm
Giving a guy a 13 year - $325 million that woulds take him into his age 38 season. Hell Mike Trout took a 6/144 extension, I'm sure Stanton would have done that as well. He played in 74 games in 2015 and 119 in 2016 and the chances that he opts out are lower and his salary will only go up as the contract goes on. How does a low payroll team like the Marlins survive that type of extension and why even pay again into his late 30's
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Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:42 pm to Duggars23
stantons contract was not an extension out of arbitration like trouts. sure, they could have gone down that route back in 2012, but when they gave him his contract, he was one year away from reaching free agency and thats pretty much what they had to give him
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:45 pm to Duggars23
I dont think he'll be in Miami for the length of that contract
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:46 pm to BCMCubs
i still dont get why trout agreed to that extension. hes losing so much money for those three free agent years
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:47 pm to Duggars23
Almost all contracts given to pro athletes are stupid.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:49 pm to Duggars23
quote:I'm not as sure as you about that.
I'm sure Stanton would have done that as well.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:49 pm to BCMCubs
I think he will. His contract structure is 6/108 and then he can opt out or opt in for a remaining 7/217. He will be 31 by the time of the opt out and the slugger market has dried up. Cespedes only got 110 and a 34 year old Encarnacion got 65 mil. Chances are the Marlins will be stuck with an aging slugger from 31-38 for 31 million per year
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:49 pm to WestCoastAg
Yeah that was puzzling for him to sign that early.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:50 pm to WestCoastAg
The angels bought out 3 free agent years for $102 million which isn't that far off from his market value in terms of AAV. He got a guaranteed $144 million and a chance at another mega deal when he is 29 at which he point he will probably get $400 million
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:51 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:I don't know, I think he likely makes it up wayyy on the back end.
i still dont get why trout agreed to that extension. hes losing so much money for those three free agent years
I think he'll get more years in total with that 6 year deal plus the next one as opposed to if he just waited, right?
Also, isn't he making way more money on the 1st 3 years compared to what he'd make in Arb?
I don't know these answers, just guessing.
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:53 pm to Duggars23
quote:thats greinke money right now. yes, thats was the highest AAV in the history of game when greinke signed last winter, but trout would beat that if he was entering free agency next winter
The angels bought out 3 free agent years for $102 million which isn't that far off from his market value in terms of AAV.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:53 pm to Duggars23
quote:Right, and 3 years of arbitration, I don't think would come anywhere near that. But again, I could be way off there.
he angels bought out 3 free agent years for $102 million which isn't that far off from his market value in terms of AAV
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He got a guaranteed $144 million and a chance at another mega deal when he is 29 at which he point he will probably get $400 million
At 29, he can and probably will get a 10 year type deal, or probably close to it. At 26, I'm not sure he's getting 12+ years to take him up to 39 or so like he will if he signs his next one at 29.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:55 pm to Duggars23
This stuff fascinates me.
Granted it doesn't work in Miami because they have the shittiest, most fickle fans in the country, but to a real team how much value does Stanton bring just via marketing and persona? Fans love big arse dudes hitting 400 foot home runs. How much is that worth in marketing / merch?
Granted it doesn't work in Miami because they have the shittiest, most fickle fans in the country, but to a real team how much value does Stanton bring just via marketing and persona? Fans love big arse dudes hitting 400 foot home runs. How much is that worth in marketing / merch?
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:57 pm to shel311
quote:if he entered free agency next year after his age 25 season, i honest to god would not put past 12/450
I think he'll get more years in total with that 6 year deal plus the next one as opposed to if he just waited, right?
quote:hes probably making about 10 million more than what he would be making if he entered arbitration
Also, isn't he making way more money on the 1st 3 years compared to what he'd make in Arb?
quote:the amount of money is probably not a crazy difference. he would probably end up making more if he entered free agency over the total amount of the contract. i am just more surprised he gave the angels three of his free agency years but i guess the angels were a decent team back then
I don't know these answers, just guessing.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:03 pm to WestCoastAg
his first year of arbitration that was bought out with his extension was a pretty normal arbitration number for someones first year of arbitration. maybe like a million less but 5.2 seems pretty normal. last year he made 15.2 which is probably 9 or 8 million more than what he would have gotten and next year hell make 19.2 which is a good ten million more
hes making close to 20 million more than what he would have gotten through a normal arbitration process
hes making close to 20 million more than what he would have gotten through a normal arbitration process
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:12 pm to Duggars23
Baseball/Basketball contracts are ridiculous for the most part.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:16 pm to Marciano1
Not really. The revenue in MLB and NBA has exploded recently and players get paid accordingly
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:22 pm to Broseph Barksdale
Miami also has the shittiest owner
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:27 pm to Duggars23
Baseball players are actually getting a lower share of revenue than in the past. I don't get why people get bent out of shape over player's salaries when the alternative is just more money into the billionaire owner's pockets.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 4:10 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:If the amount difference isn't THAT sizable, then maybe it was worth hedging his bet to get $144 mil or whatever it was in his pocket immediately just in case of injuries or whatever?
the amount of money is probably not a crazy difference.
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 4:20 pm
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