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re: Lincoln Riley will never change

Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:05 pm to
Posted by Dr Rosenrosen
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Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:05 pm to
You would think USC would benefit from NIL due to location. It doesn't really make sense.
Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:07 pm to
I think it’s pretty clear, LR is going to the NFL after this year. Likely even following his boy wherever he gets drafted. He always struck me as more of an NFL guy
This post was edited on 10/21/23 at 11:10 pm
Posted by OK Roughneck
The Sooner State
Member since Aug 2021
18408 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:09 pm to
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I thought he had turned the corner in 2020 when they smoke UF in a bowl game and their defense looked pretty good. But...not so much, I guess.


All of us thought so too then nothing but continued disappointment the next season .
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
27322 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:10 pm to
Riley will get chewed up and spit out if he goes to the NFL and has the same 'no defense' mentality there.

Whittingham owns him and he preps his program like an NFL coach would (sound in all 3 phases and is great in close games and situational FB).

Riley will be a slightly better Kliff Kingsbury, if that.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
29397 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:19 pm to
At some point soon CW is going go fake an owie and sit rest of year to prep for NFL

LR gets all this QB guru talk but lets look at it closer.

He had 2 Heismans and a runner up at OU. All 3 were transfers who were groomed by others and already great QBs. Makes it easier to call plays when QBs know football schemes without having to spend a ton of time teaching

His only recruited QBs are Rattler and Williams.

Rattler digressed in his time under Riley. Started good but went downhill. He’s done much better at USCe.

Williams had such raw talent he feasts vs subpar teams and adlibs a ton. Against good teams he struggles when they take away his outside run and put pressure on him. His freelancing doesn’t work as well and won’t work as well in NFL either. But he has digressed since his first year. He won Heisman last year and played great but was exposed in hard games.

Riley has actually feasted off of existing talent but has struggled to fully develop qbs thru 3 years. He feasted off a great title team handed him by Bob and pissed it away in Rose Bowl. And he got worse every year as he lost those hardened Bob Stoops comditioned players. Same with Usc they had some existing good talent harded up by prior conditioning coach and now that Rileys Yoga coach is in year 2 they are softer. Riley cannot run a team. He does not have the ability to get right coaches and fire bad ones.

Usc will continue to decline. My guess is some portal out once season is over and CW declares NFL. He has a ton of money left on contract so usc is stuck with him.

This post was edited on 10/21/23 at 11:24 pm
Posted by gringeaux
DFW
Member since Oct 2008
2011 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:22 pm to
Does he try to jump to the NFL next yr without CW?
Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
4047 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:22 pm to
Meh I think he can be successful as a HC. He has a great offensive mind. Plenty of dudes are great HC’s and have nothing to do with the defense. Definitely will have to hire a strong DC. He won’t have to deal with recruiting which I’m sure he’d be happy with.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
29397 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:25 pm to
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Does he try to jump to the NFL next yr without CW?



How? He has around 9/90 left on his contract. Not sure if Usc built in a clause or not but likey did. They created a mess but when you sneak around for months to steal a coach you now have to keep him right?
Posted by gringeaux
DFW
Member since Oct 2008
2011 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:28 pm to
I think him and Jim H both move to the NFL next yr.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
29397 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:29 pm to
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I think him and Jim H both move to the NFL next yr.


Would you hire him if a NFL GM?
Posted by gringeaux
DFW
Member since Oct 2008
2011 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:31 pm to
Kliff K got an NFl job after the shite show he was at TT. So I don't put it past a NFL Gm to hire him.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
29397 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:34 pm to
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Kliff K got an NFl job after the shite show he was at TT. So I don't put it past a NFL Gm to hire him.


Look how it turned out, 3 years. Now he works for Riley lol.

Riley would never last 9 years in NFL, which he is roughly making $10m per for next 9 years at usc. He would be stupid to take a pay cut to go to Not For Long league.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:38 pm to
quote:

You would think USC would benefit from NIL due to location. It doesn't really make sense.



Williams is getting plenty but if they don't have a collective that will spread things around they won't get the lines a team needs to be really good.

Probably the same issue at Colorado. Unless Neon doesn't think the trenches are important which is quite likely.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
29397 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:41 pm to
USC Trojans Wire
@TrojansWire
USC fans have to admit: In 2023, Oklahoma fans were right about Lincoln Riley

Here is link to the great article that details LR problems and history. Reporter nailed it:

Trojans Wire USA Today Article LINK
Posted by JamalMurry27
Tennessee Titans
Member since May 2023
8487 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:42 pm to
quote:

think it’s pretty clear, LR is going to the NFL after this year. Likely even following his boy where
wut
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
29397 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:46 pm to

Connor Morrissette
@C_Morrissette
USC officially makes no players available to the media after losing to Utah. That's embarrassing.
11:01 PM · Oct 21, 2023

InsideUSC
@InsideUSC
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42m
Head coach berates game officials. Bans reporter. Prevents team from talking after loss. The guy is really minor league despite the myths
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:47 pm to
They can def lose at Cal. That will be Cal's Super Bowl.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
29397 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:51 pm to
Never forget this Matt, you said it last year



Now?


Matt Leinart
@MattLeinartQB
The way they are playing USC could be 7-5 when it’s all said and done. Let that sink in.
10:40 PM · Oct 21, 2023


Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
29397 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:54 pm to
And Colin too

Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
73630 posts
Posted on 10/21/23 at 11:57 pm to
quote:

InsideUSC
@InsideUSC
·
42m
Head coach berates game officials. Bans reporter. Prevents team from talking after loss. The guy is really minor league despite the myths


Riley is a bitch
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