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re: LHSAA Week 7...
Posted on 10/15/21 at 10:40 pm to busbeepbeep
Posted on 10/15/21 at 10:40 pm to busbeepbeep
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Holy Cross 28 Rummel 21
Holy Cross was gifted a free play. It was third down, Rummel stopped them and a flag came out, but the officials picked it up, and they kept it third down. Monica was arguing the situation and was flagged for arguing , continuing the drive where they went on to score…
What the hell is going on with LSHAA officiating it’s terrible… These idiots tonight were clueless..
HC was back for a punt, deep man called a fair catch, but another deep man received the ball and ran it about 20 yards…. They were flagged, but walked the yardage back from where the returner was tackled, not where he received the ball. It was an illegal advance after a fair catch and should’ve come back to where they received the ball and mark the penalty yards from there..
Holy Cross actually did that twice, advanced the ball after a fair catch…. Second time they were flagged and yardage was marked off where he received the ball…
After the game, I’ve never seen official run off the field so fast… I saw one in the garage at Tulane where we parked. Dude was out of his officiating uni before her got to his car…
This post was edited on 10/15/21 at 11:47 pm
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Posted on 10/15/21 at 10:47 pm to busbeepbeep
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Holy Cross 28 Rummel 21 Final
Jesus, how down is Rummel this year?
Posted on 10/15/21 at 10:49 pm to chillygentilly
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Jesus, how down is Rummel this year?
They’re mostly sophomores and freshmen.. Very young team.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:01 pm to chalmetteowl
Slaughter kicked Central Privates butts 44-21.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:34 pm to Hangover Haven
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What the hell is going on with LSHAA officiating it’s terrible… These idiots tonight were clueless..
They are complete and total idiots. During the entire Brother Martin game # 61 RT held Besh DE, Jesuit the entire game without a penalty called. They finally call it the last two plays when it was certain the game was going into OT.
Tonight, in the middle of a trick formation that had John Curtis defense confused they throw a flag, stop the play, and call a sideline warning against Jesuit Coach Manale.
ETA Why blow the play dead give Curtis time to figure this shite out? How about nit throwing a flag to stop the play and give the coach a warning at the end of it?
All the while, JT was out on the field the entire game. Let’s not forget about JC getting forward progress every play and Jesuit QB not.
Just call the god damn game fair. They are idiots
This post was edited on 10/15/21 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:45 pm to GeauxColonels
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I feel bad for the DLS kicker. Kid didn’t get a chance to kick the game-tying XP due to a botched snap, then he pushes the game-winning FG wide left after DLS ran right down the field to get into position.
This is the year of HS kickers missing field goals and extra points. Jesuit kicker missed a 27 yarder to beat Brother Martin in the 2 OT.
Tonight missed another easy one and the Curtis kicker missed a layup extra point. Which made a difference late in the 4th Q.
You have to feel for these kids. Jesuit kicker did drill a 45 that was good from 50 to seal the win mid way through the 4th. Redemption is always a good story!
This post was edited on 10/15/21 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 10/16/21 at 12:20 am to Errerrerrwere
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This is the year of HS kickers missing field goals and extra points.
?????
aren't a lot of them supposed to?
but the Curtis one is oddly satisfying though, if it's the kid i think it is...
This post was edited on 10/16/21 at 12:21 am
Posted on 10/16/21 at 12:53 am to chalmetteowl
After watching the Rummel/HC game I would think that film has to be sent in to the head of the referee association to review, the LHSAA doesnt handle certain instances like what happened, they usually let the Head of the Officials from where they from review it, but I would guess that crew would more then likely not have a game of that caliber and probably have lower classification games (meaning the Cohens or Sci Academy games of the world until playoff time).
That simply CANNOT happen, I didnt have a dog in the fight but I think knowing what happened a few plays later with the TD kinda makes it even worse.
Once Monica got the flag thrown on him which I dont think anyone can blame him, You could see once the refs kinda were hesitent at times with the way the rest of the game was called, I think they knew they messed up and I agree they got out of the stadium faster then any ref crew I ever seen, they didnt even wait for security who usually accompanies them to the locker room for safety, they blew right by them LOL.
All in all, it was a good game and a big win for HC, but unforunately with what happened, that hangs over the game more then the play on the field.
That simply CANNOT happen, I didnt have a dog in the fight but I think knowing what happened a few plays later with the TD kinda makes it even worse.
Once Monica got the flag thrown on him which I dont think anyone can blame him, You could see once the refs kinda were hesitent at times with the way the rest of the game was called, I think they knew they messed up and I agree they got out of the stadium faster then any ref crew I ever seen, they didnt even wait for security who usually accompanies them to the locker room for safety, they blew right by them LOL.
All in all, it was a good game and a big win for HC, but unforunately with what happened, that hangs over the game more then the play on the field.
Posted on 10/16/21 at 1:20 am to Errerrerrwere
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This is the year of HS kickers missing field goals and extra points.
Winnfield's punter/PK kicked a FG and pinned Menard at the 1 with a punt, resulting in a safety two plays later. He was responsible for the entire margin of victory at 11-6. Bunch of small, slow private school boys vs a bunch of small, slow public school boys. The public school boys prevailed this time.
Posted on 10/16/21 at 1:29 am to TigerontheInside
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but I would guess that crew would more then likely not have a game of that caliber and probably have lower classification games (meaning the Cohens or Sci Academy games of the world until playoff time).
So you think they’d give Higgins and Grace King good refs and Newman and SCC shitty ones??? Just because one is 5A and the other is 2A?
Also it’s entirely possible they’re not thinking that detailed and are giving Holy Cross shitty refs because, well they’ve been pretty shitty and this was their home game
This post was edited on 10/16/21 at 1:33 am
Posted on 10/16/21 at 2:00 am to chalmetteowl
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So you think they’d give Higgins and Grace King good refs and Newman and SCC shitty ones??? Just because one is 5A and the other is 2A?
Also it’s entirely possible they’re not thinking that detailed and are giving Holy Cross shitty refs because, well they’ve been pretty shitty and this was their home game
What I am saying is if a complaint is registered against a crew, the head of the association in which they come from will always ask for 2 things.
1. Coach who files motion to call in directly.
2. Number of the clip of the play (Most teams have hudl these days, so they will send in that clip directly to the association hudl account, officials also grade their films for techniques and its how they are awarded playoffs and so on).
I know for a fact in the past, if a certain ruling or play needs to be addressed in which the head of the association does rule to be incorrect, the head referee of that game (not all officials on that crew), will not have either team the rest of the season in which to officate (HC and Rum in this case).
I can promise you, that referee wont have a catholic league game next week, the bigger the game, some of the best crews get. Heck the game in which you mentioned, SCC and Newman was one of the best crews from its association who also had a state championship game in natchitoches last year.
You think that was a coincidence, a game of that magnitude had a superb crew or just a regular joe who had sophie b wright the week before, crews are graded week to week on their work.
The fact is, what I witnessed tonight was embrassing, you simply cannot mess that up, he literally waved the flag off, said 4th down and signaled it even though the down marker said 3rd, and then Monica waited for the next play to be run which is smart, they celebrated and ran off feild and refs didnt notice mistake.
Posted on 10/16/21 at 7:48 am to Errerrerrwere
quote:don't lump all officials and all 10 associations together. sending a kid out for not being properly equiped prior to the snap does not always warrant a flag - no mouthpiece, pants way over knees, ect.
What the hell is going on with LSHAA officiating it’s terrible… These idiots tonight were clueless..
They are complete and total idiots. During the entire Brother Martin game # 61 RT held Besh DE, Jesuit the entire game without a penalty called. They finally call it the last two plays when it was certain the game was going into OT.
NFHS point of emphasis this year is throwing an UNS on a coach that comes onto the field and excessively argues a call.
as for certain coaches being on the field all game, this hurts them in the playoffs when they get out of town officials, because they hit them with sideline warning(the first is a warning after that it's yardage.
on questionable calls and no calls, the local association, LHSAA and LHSOA all get and review the film and take disciplinary action when warranted.
as for the gifted play - oh boy - only thing i can think of is one official blew play dead and not loudly -
jesuit trick formation, did it have a disconcerting act prior to the snap or a false start?
This post was edited on 10/16/21 at 8:00 am
Posted on 10/16/21 at 9:56 am to choupiquesushi
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jesuit trick formation, did it have a disconcerting act prior to the snap or a false start?
No. The play was called dead with a flag and Manale was given a warning.
Ran the same play later in the 4th and made Curtis “jump” on 4 and 2. First down Jesuit ~~~~>
Posted on 10/16/21 at 10:14 am to Errerrerrwere
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jesuit trick formation, did it have a disconcerting act prior to the snap or a false start?
No. The play was called dead with a flag and Manale was given a warning.
Ran the same play later in the 4th and made Curtis “jump” on 4 and 2. First down Jesuit ~~~~>
Sounds like false start or disconcerting act or p layer without proper equipmemt
This post was edited on 10/16/21 at 10:16 am
Posted on 10/16/21 at 1:31 pm to choupiquesushi
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Sounds like false start or disconcerting act or p layer without proper equipmemt
What are you not understanding about this? The play was whistled dead, flags came out, and the Nesuit side line got a sideline warning.
Posted on 10/16/21 at 1:34 pm to choupiquesushi
Unique backstory in last night’s De La Salle / Hahnville game. The DLS starting QB and HHS’s top LB are twin brothers, so they went head-to-head last night. Apparently the family moved to the westbank of St. Charles Parish this summer. The kid playing QB decided to stay at DLS while the brother decided to attend Hahnville.
Posted on 10/16/21 at 2:24 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Sounds like false start or disconcerting act or p layer without proper equipmemt
What are you not understanding about this? The play was whistled dead, flags came out, and the Nesuit side line got a sideline warning.
Plays aren’t blown dead for a sideline warning
Fouls or player not properly equipped yes. And IW
This post was edited on 10/16/21 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 10/16/21 at 4:09 pm to choupiquesushi
This is what happened according to Crescent City Sports on the extra third down to allow HC to score the go ahead TD..
That’s just incompetent officiating…
Another crazy call was on kickoff after a HC score, Rummel back catches the ball in a squatting position, and takes it back to the HC 35…. Back judge, who’s standing behind the back all the way in the end zone, comes running up and says his knee was down… where no other official, especially the side judge calls it…. Clearly his knee wasn’t down..
Thing is, if the guy thought his knee was down, why didn’t he blow the whistle and call him down. He didn’t. He didn’t make that call till after the guy’s 50 yard run.. It was pathetic…
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Holy Cross was aided by controversy on their next possession. Pinned back on their own 5-yard line, the Tigers rattled off two consecutive first downs on two rushes, moving the ball to their own 29-yard line. The drive appeared to stall out as the Rummel defense stopped QB Cole Canatella for no gain on third down. However, the officials did not change the down marker to fourth down, allowing Holy Cross another third down snap. The Tigers again were stopped short of the first down, but a 15-yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty against Monica would gift Holy Cross a first down and keep the drive alive.
That’s just incompetent officiating…
Another crazy call was on kickoff after a HC score, Rummel back catches the ball in a squatting position, and takes it back to the HC 35…. Back judge, who’s standing behind the back all the way in the end zone, comes running up and says his knee was down… where no other official, especially the side judge calls it…. Clearly his knee wasn’t down..
Thing is, if the guy thought his knee was down, why didn’t he blow the whistle and call him down. He didn’t. He didn’t make that call till after the guy’s 50 yard run.. It was pathetic…
This post was edited on 10/16/21 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 10/16/21 at 5:26 pm to Hangover Haven
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Another crazy call was on kickoff after a HC score, Rummel back catches the ball in a squatting position, and takes it back to the HC 35…. Back judge, who’s standing behind the back all the way in the end zone, comes running up and says his knee was down… where no other official, especially the side judge calls it…. Clearly his knee wasn’t down..
Thing is, if the guy thought his knee was down, why didn’t he blow the whistle and call him down. He didn’t. He didn’t make that call till after the guy’s 50 yard run.. It was pathetic
on a kickoff the back judge is on Ks restraining line. HL, LJ and R are at goal. GOod question on calling him down after 50 yards. Unless he did blow whistle and kill clock.
losing a down is incredibly rare, what coach should have done was call a timeout to discuss -
This post was edited on 10/16/21 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 10/16/21 at 6:24 pm to choupiquesushi
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losing a down is incredibly rare, what coach should have done was call a timeout to discuss -
Losing a down? HC gained a down...
Probably, but being that it was a close game, I’m sure Monica didn’t want to waste a time out.
And he was pissed, the whole game officiating was sketchy, the extra third down was just the straw that broke the camel’s back.
This post was edited on 10/16/21 at 6:27 pm
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