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re: LHSAA Looking Into 6A

Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:07 am to
Posted by NikolaiJakov
Moscow
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:07 am to
The split ain't going away unless some kind of enrollment multiplier is put in place, and even then, it would be hard to get the votes.

If the privates want to go, then go. They are the minority, and a very loud one at that. The publics can function without them.

You may say that the quality of football will be all in the private leaque, but Louisiana would be the first state where that was the case.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:14 am to
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especially if they go to the select/nonselect bs for the other sports.

Could you imagine non select baseball outside of 5A?


several really good 4a and 3a programs...
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:24 am to
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In all seriousness great ideas... Looks like principals are reading these threads.



no.. none of these are new ideas, in fact much of this was suggested prior to flushing JC and ECA down onto the small schools.


one of the problems facing the LHSAA now is the level of mistrust even amongs schools in the same category...

for example principal A for 4 years says.. the way to fix this is make all schools play in their own class - period - that will cripple them... then along comes Katrina and breaks up his district and he spends the next 4 years working on a play up one class plan simply to restore his district.... FWIW the only reason that even passed was..

1.. 1a and 2a voted for it in unison to ensure they would get rid of eca and JC.. 4a in NOLA voted for it to rid themselves of catholic schools... and 5a well you get the picture.. so for 8 years 2a and 1a were shat upon by some power brokers.. then 3a...


IE.. the smaller selects don't even trust the larger selects..... much less the rifts between the selects and non selects...

and cramming the select championships into one WEEKDAY.. has also stirred some additional bad blood...

If they had let curtis play up in football only - after 2004 they likely would be all the way up in everything by now... and everyone would be happy.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:26 am to
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The split ain't going away unless some kind of enrollment multiplier is put in place, and even then, it would be hard to get the votes.


this has been suggested and discussed for 20 years too...

now there are a growing number of principals that think their schools will GAIN students if there is a total split. meaning kids will go back to some public schools rather than play in the LAA
Posted by tigerO
Member since Mar 2006
1348 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:30 am to
I believe 6A is needed due to the large gap in the 5A numbers. For example, Byrd has over 2300 students and Haughton has 1050 and they are in the same district. You would think it was crazy if Haughton played in a 1A district, but the gap between them and Byrd is larger than the gap that would exist if Haughton played in a 1A district...
Posted by General
Monroe
Member since Jul 2004
1352 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:38 am to
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LHSAA Looking Into 6A
So how can Byrd pull from the Parish, but Parkway has to forfeit for an ineligible player who lived in the Parish?



That family was living with the Dad's co-worker in Bossier but still had a house in Caddo with all the utilities still connected. They ruled the family had dual residences which is against the rules unless your John Randall Belton. The new rule did away with "bonafide" moves within the same parish. Now your only elligible at the school you attend in the 9th grade. If you change schools inside the parish then you have to sit out a year.
Posted by General
Monroe
Member since Jul 2004
1352 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:40 am to
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The split ain't going away unless some kind of enrollment multiplier is put in place, and even then, it would be hard to get the votes.



The multiplier of 1.5 was part of one of the proposals. I believe there are a couple of states that already do this so shouldnt be that big of an issue.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47920 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:05 am to
our public schools ain't Texas's... that's some kind of Jane Griffin logic to pretend the private schools don't exist and think you will get an enrollment increase

if there is a total split i believe there will be recruiting

of course Many doesn't care. there's no select school within like 2 hours of them
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18695 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:19 am to
Mississippi has 6 classes and a private school league. The worst class for football is 4A. It is very average and watered down. The bottom of 5A is awful to, but 4A only has one or two good teams.

The private schools are very top heavy and the 8 man football is horrible to try and watch.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17208 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:55 am to
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Privates should break away from LHSAA.


If this football "split" isnt resolved in 12 months, the Louisiana private schools should DEFINITELY drop out of the LHSAA for ALL sports.
Posted by tigerbait01
Sec. 423 Row 18
Member since Jul 2007
3940 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:26 am to
Exactly so then what was stated in the previous post isn't accurate. You have to go to the choice school within the parish when entering the 9th grade to avoid sitting out a year. Wouldn't be the same if you went from public to private.
Posted by General
Monroe
Member since Jul 2004
1352 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:40 am to
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Exactly so then what was stated in the previous post isn't accurate. You have to go to the choice school within the parish when entering the 9th grade to avoid sitting out a year. Wouldn't be the same if you went from public to private.


You make your choice in the 9th grade in your parish. The only way to transfer and not have to sit out a year is to move to a new parish and attend a school in that parish. Public-private transfers dont matter anymore. They simplified the system.
Posted by GhostofJackson
Speedy Teflon Wizard
Member since Nov 2009
6605 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:51 am to
Looks like they did away with the 6A talk, now what will be voted on in January will be 5A and 4A reconciled and privates back with publics, 3A and 2A privates together, 1A privates, and then 3A, 2A, and 1A publics in their split brackets still. That would give them 7 brackets.

Additionally, there will be a vote to disallow any school that sues the LHSAA to participate in championships the following year.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30771 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:00 am to
Ghost where would that leave JC? because that will likely wipe out the rule change allowing them to play up.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164387 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:03 am to
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several really good 4a and 3a programs...

Ok several. How many would they let in the playoffs? They already let too many in and the quality of those bottom playoff teams is a joke.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:16 am to
They plan on separating all sports between public and private. In fact, the statistics are way worst for state champions among private and public female sports.

This is what the privates need to do.

Form their own organization and Refuse to play public school except those that join their association (Not every public school is crazy about split once gates are lost). The distance to play other schools will hurt both private and public but the privates can win a war of attrition because of money.
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:34 am to
I would guess they would have to play in the D3 brakcet. But so would PBS, Calvary, DLS, SCC, Evangel, Riverside, etc. Probably would actually be good.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30771 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:43 pm to
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I would guess they would have to play in the D3 brakcet. But so would PBS, Calvary, DLS, SCC, Evangel, Riverside, etc. Probably would actually be good.


So the people responsible for this whole mess - will still get what they wanted....
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Member since Nov 2009
6605 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:48 pm to
If they can vote to seclude the 2A/3A privates, I think all would vote in favor, and everyone gets what they want. Of course I would expect the Catholic League to still remain an occasional championship caliber league in 5A, not a perennial powerhouse.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 12:52 pm to
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Looks like they did away with the 6A talk, now what will be voted on in January will be 5A and 4A reconciled and privates back with publics, 3A and 2A privates together, 1A privates, and then 3A, 2A, and 1A publics in their split brackets still. That would give them 7 brackets.


I would like it this way. The Acadianas and West Monroes can compete with Rummel and Catholic.

Random dirt-poor rural consolidated parish school cannot compete with John Curtis and Evangel.
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