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re: Let’s eliminate the college one and done rule

Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:55 pm to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:55 pm to
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With the current one and done rule ALL of the development comes in the NBA.
which isn't a bad thing
Posted by Disgeaux Bob
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:56 pm to
I disagree… Much rather watch a great college match up then an NBA game any day.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:58 pm to
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I disagree… Much rather watch a great college match up then an NBA game any day.

uh... ok.

1) you're in the minority
2) why would the NBA change its rule?
Posted by Disgeaux Bob
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2016
2833 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:59 pm to
March madness smokes the NBA playoffs… It’s not even close.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:06 pm to
The nba loves one and done. Trae Young is infinitely more marketable today after one year than he would’ve been coming out of high school.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:12 pm to
The point is this rule doesn't make any sense, if you're ready to play straight-up NBA basketball out of high school whether you're Moses Malone, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Dwight Howard etc you shouldn't have to wait a year until you turn 19 to enter the real Association not that G-League crap and it bastardizes college basketball to becoming a glorified halfway one year house as opposed to the original intent of NCAA college basketball that was represented by cats such as Lew Alcindor, Elvin Hayes, Ralph Sampson, Michael Jordan, that 1983 North Carolina State team, etc. Many multi-million dollar jobs in America don't require college and NBA basketball since Kobe didn't either until this "one and done" rule (I'm aware of the fluctuation of this rule in the history of the NBA).
Posted by Disgeaux Bob
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:22 pm to
Percentage of high school players that are NBA ready is fractional… Like a fraction of 1%. Too many kids miss out on development opportunities in college not to mention the benefit of a Free education. If you want to make the jump to the NBA directly from high school I’m cool with that… But you give up your college opportunities whether you are drafted or not. Give them a choice… But if you commit to a college the current football platform benefits the NBA as well as collegiate basketball.

End of the day the players union was duped into this one and done bullshite. They were convinced that they were pushing for the rights of potential players while ultimately they were only shortening their own careers and degrading the quality of the sport. I agree wholeheartedly the NBA could give a shite about a players development and only wants to push the flavor of the month so that It can sell tickets and apparel.The current product is shite and there is no parity whatsoever.
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 11:30 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:29 pm to
When you think about sports and academic institutions in general it's all stupid. Why offer a scholarship to someone like Ben Simmons or LeBron James? Clearly they have no intention of graduating college.
Posted by Disgeaux Bob
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2016
2833 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:33 pm to
Ben Simmons put minimal effort into basketball during his tenure at LSU… Even less into academics. Doubt he ever attended a class or opened a book.
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 11:37 pm
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:37 pm to
A lot to unpack here.

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Percentage of high school players that are NBA ready is fractional…

Ok. The percentage of high school players who make it to the nba at all is less than 1%. If you’re good enough to get drafted, that money can change your life, even at 18. The players who were going into the league straight out of high school were overwhelmingly successful as far as staying in the league for multiple contracts.
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Too many kids miss out on development opportunities in college

The development opportunities in the nba are significantly better than they are in college.
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not to mention the benefit of a Free education

College isn’t going anywhere. They can always go back.
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The current product is shite and there is no parity whatsoever.

That’s your opinion. The nba is doing great.
Posted by Disgeaux Bob
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2016
2833 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:43 pm to
If you think you are good enough to make the jump from high school to the NBA have at it… Just stay the frick out of college. If you commit to a college… And a college commits to you then I think you need to stay for three years minimum. As far as parity goes the same two teams have played in the finals since 2015. There is zero parity in the NBA. Your team in particular may be doing well and that’s great… But it’s boring as shite to watch… There’s no defense… Glorified street ball.
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 11:47 pm
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:47 pm to
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Ok. The percentage of high school players who make it to the nba at all is less than 1%. If you’re good enough to get drafted, that money can change your life, even at 18. The players who were going into the league straight out of high school were overwhelmingly successful as far as staying in the league for multiple contracts.


I agree like what's the point of this stupid arse rule? It wasn't a problem before its institution and more than likely won't be a problem after its (maybe) rescission because if you're good enough to jump to the NBA direct from high school, you will be in the bonafide NBA no ifs, ands, or buts. Players and parents contemplating this generally are smart enough to know whether the player should accept a scholarship at a college for a year or two or go to the NBA direct it isn't exactly rocket science especially when publications like Sports Illustrated and basketball recruiting outlets are promoting the player to no end and some players are simply freaks of athletic nature to the point it's SOOO obvious.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:50 pm to
If you’re good enough to come out at any point, you should be able to leave, in my opinion. Why should someone have to sit around a university for two extra years and forego millions for a university?

Trae Young wasn’t a one and done before the season started, and he wouldn’t have been drafted out of high school. He has zero business playing two more years of college basketball.
Posted by Disgeaux Bob
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2016
2833 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:51 pm to
I guess were just going to have to agree to disagree… Enjoy watching the Cavaliers play the Warriors again and again and again.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
36373 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:55 pm to
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If you’re good enough to come out at any point, you should be able to leave, in my opinion. Why should someone have to sit around a university for two extra years and forego millions for a university?


But any Pro sport wants a free scouting system and like Soccer in Europe we don't have scouting leagues.

Just like the NFL wants 3 years and colleges forced 3 years...NBA wants free scouting otherwise you get the 90's - bidding wars for unproven teenagers and foreigners.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:01 am to
How will college basketball increasing the rule to 3 years affect the parity of the nba?

Those Patriots never would’ve made all of those Super Bowls if college football had a three year rule.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
56509 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:08 am to
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Ben Simmons put minimal effort into basketball during his tenure at LSU



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But it’s boring as shite to watch… There’s no defense… Glorified street ball.
we get it, you don't understand basketball
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:15 am to
He's probably from the old school perspective that loved the archaic days of the NBA when there was no 3-pt line and the players weren't as athletic, old school NBA was very haphazard compared to today's context
Posted by DannyB
Bagram, Afghanistan
Member since Aug 2010
6141 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:09 am to
The players only have to go to class for one semester to be eligible to play, ala Ben Simmons. It is a fricking joke!!!
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
84593 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 4:06 am to
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College Baseball rules allow you to be drafted after 2nd year though if JUCO
Did this change?

Because if not, JUCO is one and done.
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