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re: Let's do a vote. Death Penalty for Penn State?
Posted on 7/18/12 at 1:09 am to LooseCannon22282
Posted on 7/18/12 at 1:09 am to LooseCannon22282
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what is the count now by the way?
I'm not counting, but the NO votes are making a late charge.
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 1:12 am to bobbyray21
I learned along time ago not to put much stock into anyone with two first names' opinions.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 1:22 am to Zamoro10
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Yet it is the Board of trustees who hire the University president, who hires the athletic director who hires the coach...and so on...and the Board of Trustees are appointed.
Okay.
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As Penn State's community's elected representatives, and as Penn State is sort of a Corporation (as all major universities have become) the board of trustees has some form of an affirmative duty of due diligence, loyalty and care to the Penn State community. But they let Joe and Co. run the show - afraid to do their duty from most reports.
What in the hell are you saying? You already stated that the BOT hires the university president. Now you are saying that the BOT failed to fulfill their legal duties because they weren't involved in the day to day's?
1) The BOT's duties are confined to the scope of their responsibilities. Running the day to day's is not within the scope of their responsibilities.
So what in the hell are you saying?
Posted on 7/18/12 at 2:10 am to Fight4LSU
No death penalty. No players received extra pay, benefits, tattoos, etc. This is a legal matter and more people will likely go to jail. The death penalty is not fair to those currently involved with the team or the school and not fair to the community, local businesses, the job market and the economy. Let the school and community heal, with a big part being the football team. Don't let the actions of one and the inaction of some others ruin any more lives!
Posted on 7/18/12 at 7:12 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Let's go further. Think of all the businesses — from mom-and-pop motels to locally owned diners to office and equipment suppliers to even churches and such that rent out parking lots on game day — that rely on Penn State football for a major chunk of their annual income.
None of these people or businesses had anything to do with what happened at Penn State. Yet they would be punished.
On this idiotic line of thinking nobody should be punished ever, anywhere...because THERE ARE ALWAYS RIPPLE EFFECTS.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 7:16 am to saintsfan92612
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I think a post-season ban and reduction of scholarships would be enough considering everyone allegedly in the know is no longer with the program(or probably won't be much longer).
So the institutional caver up of child rape deserves the same punishment USCw got for giving reggie bush some money?
Posted on 7/18/12 at 7:17 am to bobbyray21
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Make note of my response, put on your thinking cap, and try again.
Over a decade long cover up did not happen?
Put your thinking cap back on. That's a huge cover up.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 7:19 am to bobbyray21
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What in the hell are you saying? You already stated that the BOT hires the university president. Now you are saying that the BOT failed to fulfill their legal duties because they weren't involved in the day to day's?
He saying the BOT is responsible for the decisions of those people they chose to represent the university. I'm beginning to think you're not very smart at all.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 7:20 am to LSUandAU
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The death penalty is not fair to those currently involved with the team or the school and not fair to the community, local businesses, the job market and the economy.
I guess hiding a coach raping children was fair to the victims?
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Let the school and community heal, with a big part being the football team
And here's the whole reason it happened, to protect the football program.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 9:07 am to LNCHBOX
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On this idiotic line of thinking nobody should be punished ever, anywhere...because THERE ARE ALWAYS RIPPLE EFFECTS.
Yep we said that also. Dumbass ppl with a creative license in here. No one should ever be punished, you got it.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 9:11 am to Klark Kent
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But in my own OPINION man, i don't think anything anything at all will happen. Just on queue they have decided to investigate the situation on their own. The NCAA will say the same, wait for PSU to make a move. PSU will wait on the NCAA to make a move. Months, years go bye, Then the NCAA and the media will sweep the whole thing under the rug as if it never happened.
I love how if the football program is allowed to stay then the investigation was a failure. You really think that this circumstance has/will be swept under the rug. Ppls lives are destroyed, ppl are in jail(more to come I suppose), and ppl are dead. Just bc psu doesn't get the DP doesn't mean it was handled incorrectly, that's just your opinion remember
Posted on 7/18/12 at 9:21 am to LSUandAU
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LSUandAU
Are you serious? Granted no player recieved any extra benefit or perk; however, to claim it is not fair to the members currently involved or the school is ridiculous. I suppose you believe it was fair for the school to aide and abet a crimminal. I also must assume that you think it is unfair to the community, which encases the victims.
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Don't let the actions of one and the inaction of some others ruin any more lives!
That is how life works my friend. Look at USC(sports point of view) at how the previous coaching staff and former players effected the current staff and players. Look at Newtons law 'for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.'
Posted on 7/18/12 at 9:23 am to LNCHBOX
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Over a decade long cover up did not happen?
Put your thinking cap back on. That's a huge cover up.
It's three guys who didn't say anything when they should have. Hardly Watergate.
Either way, I can see this argument going down the path of semantics and matters of degree. So just forget I said anything. You win.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 9:24 am to LNCHBOX
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He saying the BOT is responsible for the decisions of those people they chose to represent the university. I'm beginning to think you're not very smart at all.
Surprisingly, I test well.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 9:26 am to bobbyray21
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It's three guys who didn't say anything when they should have. Hardly Watergate.
The count is above three already.
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Either way, I can see this argument going down the path of semantics and matters of degree
It's not semantics, it's facts. Just because they don't fit your view doesn't make them any less relevant.
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So just forget I said anything. You win.
I'd try, but I'll bet you post more after this.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 9:31 am to LNCHBOX
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He saying the BOT is responsible for the decisions of those people they chose to represent the universit
He can't possibly be saying this. Well...sure he can, but if he is he's wrong. This isn't a respondeat superior situation. The BOT is unquestionably not responsible for the acts or omissions of the President merely because they appointed him.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 9:33 am to LNCHBOX
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I'd try, but I'll bet you post more after this.
Not on the question of whether a "huge cover-up" occurred. You win on that one.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 9:39 am to bobbyray21
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The BOT is unquestionably not responsible for the acts or omissions of the President merely because they appointed him.
According to whom? They decided to put the man in power; therefore, they think he will do a good job representing the university.
A similar analogy would be an AD being fired for a string of bad coaching hires. Is the AD not responsible for the coaches he hires?
Posted on 7/18/12 at 9:43 am to LNCHBOX
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According to whom?
Mr. Law
Posted on 7/18/12 at 9:47 am to bobbyray21
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Mr. Law
I'm not saying they are criminally responsible. Where did you even get that from?
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