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re: Lesner's Victory speech
Posted on 7/12/09 at 6:53 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Posted on 7/12/09 at 6:53 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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End of story.
Then he probably won't get signed by UFC.
UFC doesn't NEED Fedor....
Fedor doesn't NEED UFC either
and so there is basically no incentive for this to be worked out.
Posted on 7/12/09 at 6:58 pm to etm512
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Do you think the UFC would have let Couture compete in international wrestling tournaments while he was under contract? No. Just like any NBA, NFL, or MLB team protects their investments, so will the UFC.
The NBA allows its players to play for their national teams. Fedor wants to participate in his national sport.
Posted on 7/12/09 at 6:59 pm to LSUtigahs28
I agree. Neither needs the other. I think the UFC caves eventually because HW is the division that creates the most interest and if White really wants the credibility Brock deserves, he has to match him against Fedor. It is what the fans want badly too.
Watch and see. Dana White will cave because he is a liar and hypocrite at the end of the day.
Watch and see. Dana White will cave because he is a liar and hypocrite at the end of the day.
Posted on 7/12/09 at 7:00 pm to busbeepbeep
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The NBA allows its players to play for their national teams. Fedor wants to participate in his national sport.
That is not the same.
Posted on 7/12/09 at 7:08 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
I hope he will but I doubt it. I don't know if he has little man's syndrome or what because he seems to have a lot of trouble keeping the big guys around. He lost Arlovski, Couture, Ortiz, Shamrock, and Sylvia among others. He just can't keep the heavy divisions happy.
Posted on 7/12/09 at 7:08 pm to LSUtigahs28
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That is not the same.
Is it not? Both are putting the participants at risk of injury. Both are amateur competitions and not threats to the respective leagues.
Posted on 7/12/09 at 7:18 pm to olomgamer231
The more I think about the UFC not needing Fedor, the more I think that is not true if they want to start trying to reach their potential.
1. HW fighters capture the imagination of the public much more so than any other weight class.
2. The UFC HW division lacks credibility. Esp the way Brock has mowed through it. White knows it is weak as shite and has not wanted Fedor coming in and doing what Brock has because Fedor won't kiss his arse and may not stick around.
3. The UFC now has a legit HW that can challenge Fedor and the fans want to see dumbfrick White to make it happen yesterday.
Bottom line, whether or not Fedor was to beat Brock in a 1 fight deal or not, it is good for the UFC long term. It would be a monster fight that would attract the public's interest like NO UFC fight EVER has. That is good for the UFC regardless of the outcome. And the way it stands now, every fight fan already knows the UFC HW division lacks credibility.
1. HW fighters capture the imagination of the public much more so than any other weight class.
2. The UFC HW division lacks credibility. Esp the way Brock has mowed through it. White knows it is weak as shite and has not wanted Fedor coming in and doing what Brock has because Fedor won't kiss his arse and may not stick around.
3. The UFC now has a legit HW that can challenge Fedor and the fans want to see dumbfrick White to make it happen yesterday.
Bottom line, whether or not Fedor was to beat Brock in a 1 fight deal or not, it is good for the UFC long term. It would be a monster fight that would attract the public's interest like NO UFC fight EVER has. That is good for the UFC regardless of the outcome. And the way it stands now, every fight fan already knows the UFC HW division lacks credibility.
This post was edited on 7/12/09 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 7/12/09 at 7:37 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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dumbfrick White
Say what you want about the guy, but Dana White is not a "dumbfrick". He has done a lot of things because of his grudges and whatnot, but he has done an incredible job with the UFC. I personally think the guy is a bit of a douche, but I respect what he has done.
Posted on 7/12/09 at 8:30 pm to wmrebel74
frick all the people who don't like lesner. I hate frank Mir but I don't understand all the hatred for lesner. How could u not like it when he flipped off the crowd that was classic 
Posted on 7/12/09 at 8:44 pm to CP3LSU25
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frick all the people who don't like lesner. I hate frank Mir but I don't understand all the hatred for lesner. How could u not like it when he flipped off the crowd that was classic
I don't really see how you like Lesnar, who's a classless a-hole, and dislike Frank Mir, who showed a lot of class and is an all around good guy. I think it's very clear why everyone hates Lesnar, this is a sport and not WWE and no one that understands that thinks it's "classic" to flip off a crowd and act like a dickhead after a win for no apparent reason.
Posted on 7/12/09 at 8:50 pm to olomgamer231
anyone have the video of Lesnar wading through the trainers and security in the octagon after the fight to get in Mir's face? That was top notch.
Posted on 7/12/09 at 9:03 pm to aibo synthetic
Not saying that Dana White oozes class, but what Lesner did last night was a HUGE slap in the face to the UFC. I hope that Dana White releases him from his contract if he ever does that crap again. Imagine what is going to happen when he loses a decision at some point in the future.
Posted on 7/12/09 at 9:09 pm to Vood
He will probablly have a sarcastic smile on his face like when he lost to Mir
I guess im in the minority when I say that I think Mir is a prick and a bitch b/c in every interview leading up to this fight he did nothing but belittle Lesnar and talk shite about him. Like when him and his training partners were screaming "This aint the WWE". Lesnar should have brought that up in his post fight speech too.
Lesnar is exactly what the UFC wants. His next fight will have even more viewers just to see what the hell he says after he wins/loses.
I guess im in the minority when I say that I think Mir is a prick and a bitch b/c in every interview leading up to this fight he did nothing but belittle Lesnar and talk shite about him. Like when him and his training partners were screaming "This aint the WWE". Lesnar should have brought that up in his post fight speech too.
Lesnar is exactly what the UFC wants. His next fight will have even more viewers just to see what the hell he says after he wins/loses.
Posted on 7/12/09 at 9:40 pm to olomgamer231
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I don't really see how you like Lesnar, who's a classless a-hole, and dislike Frank Mir, who showed a lot of class and is an all around good guy. I think it's very clear why everyone hates Lesnar, this is a sport and not WWE and no one that understands that thinks it's "classic" to flip off a crowd and act like a dickhead after a win for no apparent reason
couldn't disagree more, Mir has always been known for his arrogance andc cockiness. He's been downright disrespectful to everyone he has fought. This was the only time i've seen Mir show class and it's basically because he couldn't backup all the shite he talked to Lesnar.
Now as far as Lesnar flipping off the crowd, i say oh well. With the emotion involved in the fight and the crowd booing him, he let his emotions take over. Personally it is classless but it doesn't bother me in the least bit. To many times fan boo these athletes because they feel there is not enough action in a fight, this to me is as classless as Lesnar flipping them off. So i guess it works both ways.
Posted on 7/12/09 at 10:18 pm to jojothetireguy
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To many times fan boo these athletes because they feel there is not enough action in a fight, this to me is as classless as Lesnar flipping them off. So i guess it works both ways.
There is a difference between paying to be there and being paid to be there. Different standards apply when you are a professional.
Posted on 7/12/09 at 10:47 pm to CP3LSU25
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frick all the people who don't like lesner.
No. frick you. Guy's a dickbag piece of shite. Too bad there isn't anyone worth a frick in the heavyweight division in UFC to whip his arse like it deserves to be.
Posted on 7/12/09 at 10:57 pm to rmc
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Mir is about as arrogant as they come.
ALL fighters are arrogant. They have to be.
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:08 am to olomgamer231
First of all it's not a sport. It's entertainment. There are 3 sports maybe more. Baseball, basketball, and football. The rest are activities so I don't care if he flips off the crowd ufc needs a bad guy so why not give them one. Don't take this to seriously it's not football or basketball.
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:10 am to rmc
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To call Lesnar cocky and say Mir isn't, is just being dishonest because you don't like Lesnar.
Mir is very arrogant. However, there is a difference with someone who is arrogant and someone who is just a straight up no class piece of shite.
As arrogant as Mir is, he still attempted to touch gloves. He was a good sport about it.
Lesnar is just a poor sport bitch who needs his arse beat. No class.
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:17 am to TheBob
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Mir is very arrogant. However, there is a difference with someone who is arrogant and someone who is just a straight up no class piece of shite
There is also a difference between arrogance and being an unclassy piece of shite, lol.
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