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re: Lebron trolls Warriors at his Halloween Party
Posted on 11/1/16 at 9:11 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Posted on 11/1/16 at 9:11 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:What do you base that on?
LeBrons dislike of curry and klay
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 6:44 am to shel311
quote:
You mean something like standing and walking over Draymond and taking his masculinity from him
No...that's posturing bullshite. Which is why when Dray flicked his hand at him supposedly hitting him square in the sack LeBron didn't clock his arse, he whined to the officials. Not saying it wasn't smart, just soft. I assure you, someone hits Barkley in the balls, he's not first looking to an official for help of for team mates to hold him back.
The NBA is soft as frick today. Blame it on the influx of European players and their propensity for flopping, but who cares. I'll give LeBron tons of credit for being one of the world's greatest athletes and with that comes the expectation that he won't fall down like he's been hit by a tank when a point guard touches him. Fouls were important back in the day too, but not enough to...as you put it...give up one's masculinity by falling down like a little girl when you're probably one of the strongest most physically gifted athletes of all time.
None of that has anything to do with the fact that the NBA as a whole today as far more gifted. I enjoy most of the play today. But trying to act like the league isn't filled with a bunch of bitches who would prefer to fall down rather than muscle their way through a foul and stay on their feet is silliness. It's hard to take another man's masculinity when you give up your own nightly for a call or two...
Posted on 11/2/16 at 7:11 am to GeauxTigerTM
This type of pussy troll shite wouldn't even be needed if you could take care of shite on the court the way they used to back in the Charles Oakley, Charles Barkley, Bad Boys from Detroit days where you could actually touch someone on defense and hard fouls were the norm.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 7:14 am to shel311
Read the post I put above it.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:11 am to DannyB
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This type of pussy troll shite wouldn't even be needed if you could take care of shite on the court the way they used to back in the Charles Oakley, Charles Barkley, Bad Boys from Detroit days where you could actually touch someone on defense and hard fouls were the norm.
Agreed. Now...I'm not necessarily advocating for fights in the NBA. But, there was something far more genuine about guys genuinely disliking each other and other teas so much that hard fouls would matter enough that you'd risk a fine, being ejected, etc to respond in kind rather than pretending you were REALLY mad!!!!
I'm just pointing out that true aggressive play doesn't really exist in the current NBA as evidenced by the fact that LeBron has been in the league for 13 seasons and has yet to be in anything remotely that looks like a true scuffle. I've looked. You'll find compilations on YouTube named LeBron Fights only to find a slightly hard foul and then LeBron move a step towards a guy then get held back like James Brown being held back by his back-up singers. Or LeBron passive aggressively throwing an elbow at a guy who then gets pissed and they talk at each other.
On the flip side, you don't have to look hard to find fights between true legends of the game back then...and it wasn't because they were all thugs.
I'm not saying it's better or worse, just that anyone that doesn't find having professional smack talk cookies made to replace actual disdain or dislike for an opposing player WHEN YOU'RE STANDING IN FRONT OF THEM ON THE COURT really missed out on the NBA when you could see that. I mean, I saw that photo of the cookies and couldn't help but think of someone from the 80's or 90's telling James, "Yo...nice bakery burn, jackass. Your mom make those?"
But whatever...
Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:45 am to GeauxTigerTM
quote:If Draymond did that to Lebron you would be saying he punked him, it's ok to admit that.
No...that's posturing bull shite
quote:Yea, THAT is why, not because Lebron didn't want to be suspended for the NBA Finals. Surely, not that.
Which is why when Dray flicked his hand at him supposedly hitting him square in the sack LeBron didn't clock his arse, he whined to the officials
quote:Guys flopped back in the day, not sure why we pretend they didn't.
Fouls were important back in the day too, but not enough to...as you put it...give up one's masculinity by falling down like a little girl when you're probably one of the strongest most physically gifted athletes of all time.
quote:The biggest difference is the way it's policed now vs back in the day.
. But trying to act like the league isn't filled with a bunch of bitches who would prefer to fall down rather than muscle their way through a foul and stay on their feet is silliness.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:49 am to GeauxTigerTM
quote:You mean like Lebron did to Draymond on the court?
I'm not saying it's better or worse, just that anyone that doesn't find having professional smack talk cookies made to replace actual disdain or dislike for an opposing player WHEN YOU'RE STANDING IN FRONT OF THEM ON THE COURT really missed out on the NBA when you could see that
Or do you mean like Lebron did to Steph in the Finals on that block?
Sounds like the only way for you to be satisfied is LeBron blocks Curry then just runs up and punches him in the face.
quote:I find it funny and probably naïve on your part if you think players back in the day didn't do a shite ton of what you'd call passive aggressive things like that. You just didn't have this media and social media age to know about it all, but I'd bet anything it existed.
I mean, I saw that photo of the cookies and couldn't help but think of someone from the 80's or 90's telling James, "Yo...nice bakery burn, jackass. Your mom make those?"
Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:52 am to shel311
Lebron is able to keep his cool and not throw punches like a drunk teenager... and that's a bad thing.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:55 am to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:Lebron is soft because he didn't get up and clock Draymond's arse in game 4 of the NBA Finals.
Lebron is able to keep his cool and not throw punches like a drunk teenager... and that's a bad thing.
Let that sink in for a bit.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:56 am to shel311
He lost his masculinity because he acts in a way that is most beneficial to his team and gives him team the best chance to succeed.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:59 am to StrongBackWeakMind
That dude prolly loves Zinedine Zidane. Dude headbutts someone in the world cup finals, gets kicked out, and loses his country the cup.
But he kept his masculinity!!!!!
But he kept his masculinity!!!!!
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:16 am to Boomshockalocka
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Let him have his fun til June. Deep down I reckon even lebron knows they couldn't have touched golden state with even average health.
You really need to let go of this. Injuries are a part of sports. I didn't see you crying this much when Lebron drug that M.A.S.H unit to the Finals in 2015.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:22 am to shel311
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If Draymond did that to Lebron you would be saying he punked him, it's ok to admit that
No...I wouldn't. Walking over a guy is silly bullshite. It's avoiding actual contact for the appearance of it. I don't have a dog in this fight. I neither like LeBron or hate him. dude's an incredible player...I just find his act silly given what I think he could be. if this stuff plays for you guys, cool...no harm no foul.
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Yea, THAT is why, not because Lebron didn't want to be suspended for the NBA Finals. Surely, not that.
Again...I actually did go look to see if James had EVER gotten into anything remotely like a fight while in the NBA. I couldn't find anything...whether the NBA Finals or not. Maybe he's just so damn smart and cunning he refuses to ever take the bait. Or maybe the guy doesn't really care enough to be passionate enough to retaliate when a guy fouls him so hard he flies off in the other direction...
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Guys flopped back in the day, not sure why we pretend they didn't.
You'd find guys trying to take a charge, sure...but if you're going to pretend that it was anything remotely like what the NBA is today you're either being willfully obtuse or lying. There's a reason they're having to now address it, after all... And the irony of a guy as physically powerful as James failing around like a rag doll anytime some gets near him just makes me laugh. I get the gamesmanship of it, but why pretend it's not soft to behave that way? He'd be called out for being a giant vagina on any playground in America acting like that, why pretend otherwise?
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The biggest difference is the way it's policed now vs back in the day.
Possibly...but it's also true that guys genuinely like each other regardless of whether they play for opposing teams or not. Really wasn't the case but for a few guys...like Magic and Isaiah.
And look...I know for some of you guys who are big James fans, this is all personal. Sorry about that. I appreciate your loyalty to the guy, but there's no real animosity in pointing out the guy COULD behave a different way but prefers behave the way he does. It's clearly working as you guys like it. It doesn't play with me...tough like I said, I genuinely don't care enough to dislike the guy in any real way.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:25 am to GeauxTigerTM
quote:Holy fricking shite. What a hot fricking take. It is 9:25am, and I guarantee there wont be a hote
Or maybe the guy doesn't really care enough to be passionate enough
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:32 am to GeauxTigerTM
quote:Here's your answer.
Maybe he's just so damn smart and cunning he refuses to ever take the bait.
What's the benefit of coming up swinging?
ETA: And considering you're knocking the dude for being passive aggressive, your post is hysterical.
This post was edited on 11/2/16 at 9:34 am
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:36 am to GeauxTigerTM
quote:So when Draymond is on the ground, Lebron should NOT avoid contact? What do you want for LeBron to dive on top of him, maybe the Hulk Hogan leg drop would suffice?
Walking over a guy is silly bull shite. It's avoiding actual contact for the appearance of it
quote:Yea, maybe it's that, maybe LeBron doesn't care enough. I think you're on to something here!!!
Or maybe the guy doesn't really care enough to be passionate enough
quote:Yea, he could punch a guy in the face every game, I mean, he COULD do that. Then you'd call him a thug, ho hum.
but there's no real animosity in pointing out the guy COULD behave a different way but prefers behave the way he does
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:39 am to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:To show them you're a man who won't take no shite...especially in game 4 of the NBA Finals!!
What's the benefit of coming up swinging?
Soft!!
Posted on 11/2/16 at 11:52 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:
he Cavs were .2 points per 100 possessions better with Lebron/Love/Kyrie on the court than they were with Lebron/no Kyrie/no Love
Regular season does not translate to playoffs. Kyrie Irving who can give you 30-40 points on any given night against Steph and take the pressure off LeBron is better than Matthew Dellavedova.
Your stat basically shows that in games when Kyrie went to the bench for brief stretches, on those possessions LeBron was able to put his foot on the gas with the bench mob and their "points per 100 possessions" stat didn't drop much. But give those bench guys starters minutes and expect LeBron to carry the team every possession in a 7 game series instead of for a 4 minute stretch here and there? No way.
This post was edited on 11/2/16 at 11:59 am
Posted on 11/2/16 at 12:16 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:Boom has been using this line for quite a while now since that 2015 NBA Finals, and I guess we've all slacked and never bothered to fact check.
we been through this several times bro during that season the Cavs were .2 points per 100 possessions better with Lebron/Love/Kyrie on the court than they were with Lebron/no Kyrie/no Love. Over a 7 game series that's worth a couple points. If you watched GSW during the season you know Steph wasn't close to himself, conservative estimate 5-6 points per game. So 1 point every few games v 5-6 points each game and you see what team was more hampered by injury
Bref says they were +13.6 per 100 possessions with that 3 man unit
Now, I don't know where to find the exact data with Lebron on the court without Kyrie/Love. But if you look at the 5-man combos and sort by net points, their top 7 units which are also the only units with in the positive, all involve Lebron/Kyrie/Love. So it seems that you can easily conclude that +.2 can't be correct and is actually wayyyyyy off.
The BEST Lebron only lineup was -5.2, and that was in only 67 minutes total on the season.
This post was edited on 11/2/16 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 11/2/16 at 12:37 pm to shel311
my 500 to your 100. Just say the word bro. And I'll prove it to ya if not gtfo.
Just because you don't have access to those numbers via google and bball ref doesn't mean that someone like me doesn't and is just making stuff up.
Just say the word bro. And I'll prove it to ya if not gtfo. Just because you don't have access to those numbers via google and bball ref doesn't mean that someone like me doesn't and is just making stuff up.
This post was edited on 11/2/16 at 12:58 pm
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