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re: Lebron isn’t MJ, but that’s ok. His legacy has been remarkable as well
Posted on 10/10/20 at 10:36 am to Winston Cup
Posted on 10/10/20 at 10:36 am to Winston Cup
Self-proclaimed King should be the best not one of the best.
He brought mug of this on himself, but he is a great talent historically. No one is denying that. He is simply not the best.
He brought mug of this on himself, but he is a great talent historically. No one is denying that. He is simply not the best.
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Posted on 10/10/20 at 10:39 am to Mr Perfect
Duncan Robinson made 6 or more 3s 18 times this season. 
Posted on 10/10/20 at 10:42 am to shel311
what's funny dude. 2 4pt plays
fluke flagrant on dwight39
3 possessions 14 points. that doesn't happen ever again
fluke flagrant on dwight39
3 possessions 14 points. that doesn't happen ever again
Posted on 10/10/20 at 10:44 am to Smoke7024
csb gl with that logic again
you need jimmer nunn and duncan's neighborhood to be flame throwers for a chance.. a chance
not even a good win. you need all that... for a chance lmao
will bet anyone anything heatles have zero chance.
guess what. not a damn soul will step. happens every time
just Yap Yap Yap but never putting money where the mouth is
you need jimmer nunn and duncan's neighborhood to be flame throwers for a chance.. a chance
not even a good win. you need all that... for a chance lmao
will bet anyone anything heatles have zero chance.
guess what. not a damn soul will step. happens every time
just Yap Yap Yap but never putting money where the mouth is
Posted on 10/10/20 at 10:46 am to Mr Perfect
quote:Oh, I'll bet you $100 at 10000000-1 odds, let's go!!]
will bet anyone anything heatles have zero chance.
guess what. not a damn soul will step
I stepped!!
Posted on 10/10/20 at 10:47 am to Mr Perfect
Your melts are the best
Posted on 10/10/20 at 10:48 am to Mr Perfect
Calm down buddy. I’m sorry Duncan Robinson being a good shooter has hurt your feelings.
Posted on 10/10/20 at 10:51 am to shel311
just like I say. soys come out.
been doing this for nearly a yr. battling thousands of ppl.
pels
blazers
rox
nugshow
lol all going to beat us
clipshow built to beat lake show
bucks best team lol.
said zero chance on an these arguments.
proven 100% right every single time
nunn 60%
duncan's neighborhood 60%
jim 60%
and they only scraped by dude lol
this is will be the funniest thing ever just you wait dude
been doing this for nearly a yr. battling thousands of ppl.
pels
blazers
rox
nugshow
lol all going to beat us
clipshow built to beat lake show
bucks best team lol.
said zero chance on an these arguments.
proven 100% right every single time
nunn 60%
duncan's neighborhood 60%
jim 60%
and they only scraped by dude lol
this is will be the funniest thing ever just you wait dude
Posted on 10/10/20 at 2:30 pm to Winston Cup
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Lebron isn’t MJ, but that’s ok. His legacy has been remarkable as well
No duh he's gonna finish as a top 5 player of all-time, at best no. 3
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Lebron gave up the ball in the game winning scenario in a closeout game of the finals.
The D the Heat employed was specifically designed to take the ball out of his hands, had 3 guys literally lurking by the basket on the baseline, would've been insane for him to risk a turnover or shoot a bad shot
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it was uncharacteristic for a Jordan-esq player.
Jordan's given the ball up to players like Steve Kerr and Pippen in game-winning scenarios, John Paxson took the shot to win in 93
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Looking back at some of the recent greats even Kobe comes to mind, no chance anyone but the mamba takes that shot.
Greatest bad shot taker ever
Posted on 10/10/20 at 2:36 pm to Bunk Moreland
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He should finish the job this year. If he adds one more after that, I think he is 1 and 1A with MJ due to the championships in multiple cities and longevity. Also, at that point, I think he gets credit for the extra finals appearances. It's better to lose in the finals than earlier, but people on this board don't seem to understand that.
I think he needs to win 3 straight to truly enter the top 1 conversation, next to never losing in the Finals, that's something MJ did which LeBron didn't, if he goes on a fourpeat, that helps the argument further, MJ never did that
Posted on 10/10/20 at 2:49 pm to lsupride87
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He is about to win a title with a third separate franchise, with a third seperate head coach
Tremendous accomplishment no matter how one spins it
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All of those teammates weren’t winning shite until he showed up
Ehhhhh all of them were newly created super teams when he arrived (exception of 2019 Lakers) so that's a little misleading
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they instantly all went to not winning shite again when he left
Cleveland (first time): pretty much a team solely built around LeBron and Mo Williams never matured to a point where he could function like Pippen when MJ left, also they changed coaches from Mike Brown to Byron Scott and Danny Ferry resigned as GM so wayyyy different context by which to judge
Miami: Wade got old and Bosh with the blood clot pretty much sank the team there
Cleveland: no Kyrie and K-Love reached the end of his "prime" was time to go
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MJ may have been better than lebron
At their peaks, both were the greatest we ever saw, I think MJ's better because he combined that with the killer will at all times (homicidal competitiveness) whereas LeBron tended to vacillate a ton in that regard so I'd def pick Mike with my life on the line
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but no individual in any team sports history has proven they can bring tittles to multiple places like Lebron
Kareem?
Shaq?
Kawhi?
Dennis Johnson?
Don't get me wrong it's a legendary accomplishment but may be skewed nowadays because of the prevalence of free agency, who knows what would have happened if Bird, Magic, Jordan, Isiah, etc could move between teams? Probably multiple championships with multiple teams as well.
Posted on 10/10/20 at 2:49 pm to Winston Cup
quote:why should we penalize Bron for us being smarter now than when MJ played?
That’s a great point B, I forgot to note the load management in his time at Miami and second run in Cleveland. That he didn’t play the full 82 game schedule
Posted on 10/10/20 at 2:59 pm to SoulBrotha91
quote:I'll never understand how someone can say this and really only look at titles and then have MJ over Bill Russell.
I think he needs to win 3 straight to truly enter the top 1 conversation, next to never losing in the Finals, that's something MJ did which LeBron didn't, if he goes on a fourpeat, that helps the argument further, MJ never did that
Posted on 10/10/20 at 3:07 pm to shel311
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then have MJ over Bill Russell.
MJ has the rings and doubled as the league's best offensive player and (arguably) defensive player while he did it, this isn't some rocket science game, he was the total package Russell was not when it came to offense
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I'll never understand how someone can say this
Um did LeBron ever do this? bc I know MJ did it TWICE while also functioning as the league's best offensive and defensive player
not only that LeBron created super teams to stack the deck in his favor TWICE you know LeBron only has 3 title wins in 16 seasons to this point? Not to mention he never advanced to the Finals except once his first stint in Cleveland and Boston was basically the only good team there. Hell I'm even questioning whether he's superior to Tim Duncan now who STILL has more titles than him. quote:
really only look at titles
LOL incredibly obtuse for you to actually conclude this
This post was edited on 10/10/20 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 10/10/20 at 3:14 pm to SoulBrotha91
quote:lol
Hell I'm even questioning whether he's superior to Tim Duncan now who STILL has more titles than him.
quote:The entire post only only talked about rings but it's obtuse to think your stance was about rings? Got it.
LOL incredibly obtuse for you to actually conclude this
This post was edited on 10/10/20 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 10/10/20 at 3:35 pm to LSUPHILLY72
Jordan is the best to ever do it. If you lived in his era and got a chance to watch him play we wouldn't even waist time having this discussion.
LeBron is also great. But compared to Mike in basketball and basketball only, like MC Hammer say, "Can't touch this".
LeBron is also great. But compared to Mike in basketball and basketball only, like MC Hammer say, "Can't touch this".
Posted on 10/10/20 at 3:43 pm to shel311
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The entire post only only talked about rings
I mean we have the talent, accolades, and production by both players down, no? Now we address the team accomplishments, championships, please keep up
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it's obtuse to think your stance was about rings?
Bc the argument was never only about rings but now that we addressed the other components, we shift to rings, that's how we distinguish and make our points DUH!!
are you new to this debate?? 
Posted on 10/10/20 at 4:11 pm to SoulBrotha91
quote:oh, I didn't realize that all that stuff was exactly a tie so then rings were the only way to make this decision. My bad.
I mean we have the talent, accolades, and production by both players down, no?
quote:Your entire post was, factually speaking.
Bc the argument was never only about rings
quote:If i am, this is a bad look for you to be made to look so foolish by someone "new to this debate"
are you new to this debate??
Rings rings rings rings rings rings rings.... I didn't say it was only about rings!!!
Posted on 10/10/20 at 5:11 pm to shel311
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oh, I didn't realize that all that stuff was exactly a tie so then rings were the only way to make this decision. My bad.
I mean comparing them directly is apples to oranges since both are really different players but at their zenith they're the best we've ever seen
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If i am, this is a bad look for you to be made to look so foolish by someone "new to this debate"
How am I made foolish here? Do you remember that since early in the 91 season, MJ never lost three in a row again in a Bulls uniform, including playoffs? That record will never be duplicated nor exceeded.
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Bc the argument was never only about rings
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Your entire post was, factually speaking.
The argument=/=entire post but you inferred correctly about the respective resumes and talent so will credit you there. The titles and two three peats (both which LeBron never did or approached) set MJ apart.
This post was edited on 10/10/20 at 5:12 pm
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