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re: Lakers 2.0: The failed reboot of the NBA's crown jewel

Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:19 pm to
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What have they been so far in L.A.?


Aside from what the article in the OP has discussed, you surely are aware that the Lakers entire season went sideways after the AD trade fiasco.

Are you saying he had no role in that whatsoever?

Because that pretty much fricked their season in half.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:21 pm to
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AD trade fiasco
Can you explain what went wrong there? I have a general idea but not nearly as much as you guys that follow the league regularly.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:27 pm to
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LeBron is a black hole for any organization at this point in his career.
Drug a shite team to the finals just last year, but now he's a black hole.

ETA: Nawlins, I believe this is the sort of post reauxl was referring to in this post.
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It seems like it because of the incredible amount of dumb shite y’all come up with about him and I also answer and argue with most trolls.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 12:29 pm
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:28 pm to
Lebron tried to trade all his teammates for AD, trade fell through and shockingly all his teammates stopped giving a frick and quit the season
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:34 pm to
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Can you explain what went wrong there? I have a general idea but not nearly as much as you guys that follow the league regularly.

Umm, they tried to coerce the Pelicans into trading AD to the Lakers (in the middle of a season with a year and a half left on his deal), which in turn led to the Pels fricking them over by exposing that the Lakers put every young piece of their team on the table. This led to the locker room turning against LeBron (and basically not caring anymore about the team).

It basically ruined both teams' seasons, but luckily for the Pels it led to them landing Zion
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:34 pm to
I didn’t like any of that saga.

Put 0% or 100% of the blame for that on Lebron. I wouldn’t argue for or against either.

But claiming that’s what derailed the season is bullshite. Did it injure half the damn team?

So were the Lakers a legitimate team this year without the AD mess?
So is this the team that the Lakers want moving forward?

Y’all argue out of both sides of your mouths. “Lebron isn’t trying to win. This season is just a toss up.”

Then he ruins a season by trying to get rid of players that y’all laugh at.

What is is?
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 12:36 pm
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:36 pm to
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Drug a shite team to the finals just last year, but now he's a black hole.


A shite team that got through the east. That’s like being the tallest midget. The dude is a black hole for any organization in that he wants nothing but sycophants around him. Tyronn Lue being example no. 1.

Dude single handedly got Luke Walton canned and beat the drum hard for Lue.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:38 pm to
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But claiming that’s what derailed the season is bullshite. Did it injure half the damn team?

The season was ruined regardless, there was zero morale after the trade details leaked.

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Then he ruins a season by trying to get rid of players that y’all laugh at.

The way that this occurred is what everyone laughs at. They tried to bully the Pels, and the Pels turned it around on them. It was comical.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:38 pm to
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A shite team that got through the east.
Ok?

Last year drug a shite team to the finals. This year he's a black hole for any organization. Makes sense to me.

ETA: This is the kind of exaggerated horseshite that fills the board any time Lebron is discussed.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 12:41 pm
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:39 pm to
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Umm, they tried to coerce the Pelicans into trading AD to the Lakers (in the middle of a season with a year and a half left on his deal), which in turn led to the Pels fricking them over by exposing that the Lakers put every young piece of their team on the table. This led to the locker room turning against LeBron (and basically not caring anymore about the team).

It basically ruined both teams' seasons, but luckily for the Pels it led to them landing Zion
I gotcha.
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The way that this occurred is what everyone laughs at. They tried to bully the Pels, and the Pels turned it around on them. It was comical.
How did they try to bully the Pelicans? Not trolling. Honestly curious.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:40 pm to
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A shite team that got through the east. That’s like being the tallest midget
How good at basketball do you think Giannis is? How far above Giannis do you have Lebron?

Giannis didn’t make the finals with a team twice as good as what Lebron had last season.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
34896 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:40 pm to
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But claiming that’s what derailed the season is bullshi


I mean are you saying it played no role in fricking their season up?

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So were the Lakers a legitimate team this year without the AD mess?
So is this the team that the Lakers want moving forward?



Legitimate title contenders? No.

Team they want moving forward? Probably not exactly.

Better than they ended up? Absolutely.

And of course injuries played a part - every team deals with injuries every year.

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Y’all argue out of both sides of your mouths.


Who the frick is “y’all”?

Yes man, if you lump every dissenting Lebron opinion into one big argument, there will be some contradictions there.

I bet if I lump you and Mr Perfect together there will be inconsistencies as well.



Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115711 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:47 pm to
They worked with Rich Paul and LeBron to force a trade to the Lakers mid season. Klutch attempted to sabotage all Pelicans leverage through a variety of leaks and statements, including having ADs dad trashing the Celtics publicly when it appeared they were the reason the Pels weren’t making a deal.

There’s a lot to it. It was a complete fiasco
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83457 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 12:56 pm to
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I mean are you saying it played no role in fricking their season up?
No, dude, I’m not saying that.

If this isn’t the team Lebron wants around him and Lonzo can’t shot or even get on the damn court and Ingram is sick and Kuzma has hit his ceiling and this Laker’s team isn’t going anywhere anyways then what’s the big goddamn deal here?

Y’all just latch onto whatever you can to form a shite narrative around what Lebron does.

“Lebron doesn’t care about winning and is washed up.” He then starts the first 20% of the season in MVP talks and then team is doing fine.

Then he tries to get AD and you say he ruined their season.

Then you laugh at the trade because the players massive deficiencies in their game, are sick, can’t stay healthy, have hit their ceiling, and will demand big contracts soon.

I’m not fully saying Lebron didn’t make a mistake with the AD stuff. But there’s more to it than the blanket bullshite talk throw over the situation.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83457 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:03 pm to
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bet if I lump you and Mr Perfect together there will be inconsistencies as well.
Jokes on you.

He’s my alter.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32424 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:06 pm to
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Then he tries to get AD and you say he ruined their season.

Then you laugh at the trade because the players massive deficiencies in their game, are sick, can’t stay healthy, have hit their ceiling, and will demand big contracts soon.

I’m not fully saying Lebron didn’t make a mistake with the AD stuff. But there’s more to it than the blanket bullshite talk throw over the situation.


He thought he could force the Pelicans into trading AD to his team. It's not that he wanted to trade his team for AD that was bad, it's the attitude that both LeBron and Magic had about the situation. That the Pels should just take their deal, because LeBron is LeBron and the Lakers are the Lakers, and both are used to getting what they want. LeBron/Klutch/Lakers tried to play hardball and bully the Pels and it blew up in their faces, and basically ruined the chemistry of what is left of their team.
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Said one Lakers front-office staffer: "What wasn't in good faith? We proposed something and they turned it down. It's very arrogant on our part."
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51546 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:06 pm to
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"There was one time when Kobe, who I worked with for 18 years, was going back to play in Madison Square Garden, and he had just seen 'The Dark Knight,'" Pelinka said. "Obviously, you guys saw that movie, and he's like, 'Hey, hook me up with dinner with Heath Ledger, because he got so locked into that role. I want to know how he mentally went there.' So, he had dinner with Heath, and he talked about how he locks in for a role. 
"And Kobe used some of that in his game against the Knicks." 


Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83457 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:15 pm to
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He thought he could force the Pelicans into trading AD to his team. It's not that he wanted to trade his team for AD that was bad, it's the attitude that both LeBron and Magic had about the situation
Dude.

Lebron is very self UNaware. Of course his brashness/cockiness is going to come off horribly when he’s trying to get in first and quickly get a deal done before anyone else.

It blew up in his face and that’s probably what should have happened.

Sooooo what’s the big deal here? Dead serious I’m not seeing what y’all are seeing as far as Lebron fricking over this franchise.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
34896 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:26 pm to
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Y’all just latch onto whatever you can to form a shite narrative around what Lebron does.

“Lebron doesn’t care about winning and is washed up.” He then starts the first 20% of the season in MVP talks and then team is doing fine.


See this is kind of what I’m talking about with you in regard to your objectivity

I’m not “y’all”. I don’t know where that quote came from or who said it. This is nowhere close to the original discussion that you and I started having.

You asked me what bad decisions he’s made in LA, and I told you, and you basically admitted it wasn’t handled correctly.

That’s it.

You’re throwing all this other shite around that has nothing to do with me or this conversation while simultaneously minimizing the fact that he and his agent fricked up and strongly contributed to the derailment of an entire season.
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