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re: Just to show you how insane the CFP format is..

Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:15 am to
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:15 am to
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Fickell left for Wisconsin, not ND. And Cincy made the CFP in 2021, but Fickell didn’t leave until after the 2022 regular season.

Brian Kelly left ND in 2021 to take the LSU job while ND was still technically alive in the CFP hunt, but needed a couple of upsets in conference title games.


Fickell was going to ND in 2021 but ND wouldn't wait until after the playoffs. That was the coaching carousel drama.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
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Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:15 am to
Yeah, back when the regular season meant something, and players actually played in bowl games.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:18 am to
Players have been sitting out of bowl games since 2015 when Jaylon with got his leg snapped.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:20 am to
I'm no fan of LSU.

"The" Ohio State definitely has the obnoxious National Championship wrapped up though.

Hadn't been relevant since the 60s until the NCAA mandated check clearing requirements for a playoff spot.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
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Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:20 am to
I'm talking about way before 2015.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:21 am to
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Hadn't been relevant since the 60s until the NCAA mandated check clearing requirements for a playoff spot.


Posted by LChama
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:21 am to
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Under the table, with hundred dollar handshakes, and no paper trail to speak of (SMU excluded). If you think the illicit payments being given to players back then are anything like the salaries they are getting now then there is just no arguing with you.


And even then it wasnt enforced equally. Auburn got probation when any other school broke the rules. The whole thing has always been a corrupt. Kind of glad its ruined
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:22 am to
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Auburn got probation when any other school broke the rules.


Auburn got probation because Eric Ramsey recorded his conversations with Pat Dye and turned them over to the NCAA. There was incontrovertible evidence of pay-for-play.
This post was edited on 11/30/25 at 11:24 am
Posted by cfish140
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Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:25 am to
I like how 1 loss dosent completely tank your season anymore. And 2 makes it impossible to get to the championship. Thats the best thing about the new playoff. It definitely dosent need to be expanded though, that’s just to many games for moneys sake. Nobody actually thinks a 12-16 seed is going to make a run to the championship. You’re just putting them in for money and to appease the ones bitching why they barely missed the playoff
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:26 am to
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I like how 1 loss dosent completely tank your season anymore. And 2 makes it impossible to get to the championship. Thats the best thing about the new playoff.


Are you for real or did you just mistype? Ohio State won the national championship just last year with two losses.
Posted by cfish140
BR
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:30 am to
I may have worded that weird. I’m saying I like how in this new format you still have a shot with 1-3 losses, unlike the previous format where you were behind the 8 ball with 1 and fricked after 2.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:32 am to
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Almost as bad as when it was only 2 teams and a division runner up got in over other conferences’ champs


Shows how we just make it up as we go along, every couple of years gotta change things up to "fix" things or get a "true champion"

The true champion are the puppet-masters who have us by the strings behind their money-grubbing schemes ala ESPN

Everything, everything done in CFB from Networks, Universities, CEOs, Presidents, the players, the coaches, etc. is all done only for money. The sport is so transparent now, no false illusions, rudderless, openly morally bankrupt, shallow and so distant from what Collegiate ought to be.

I prefer the MNC (and it still is the MNC, because we haven't "fixed" anything) because it was open for debate, untethered by $Networks, voted on by a simple Poll(s) after ALL the Bowl games, no hand-wringing over TV ratings or manufacturing results by computers or committees. Just random CFB sportwriters giving their barroom opinion; we survived and it was more interesting.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:34 am to
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2019 was magically the best season ever tho right?

I won't say that, but this 12-team playoff era is the fecal waste of an abortion.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
466272 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:36 am to
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Fickell to Notre Dame 2021


You're not a serious poster
Posted by LChama
Member since May 2020
3317 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:37 am to
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Auburn got probation because Eric Ramsey recorded his conversations with Pat Dye and turned them over to the NCAA. There was incontrovertible evidence of pay-for-play.


Eric Ramsey told Coach Dye he needed food to feed his wife and baby. Dye helped the douchbag out. Not like he gave him a Dodge Charger or anything.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466272 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:37 am to
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Fickell was going to ND in 2021 but ND wouldn't wait until after the playoffs. That was the coaching carousel drama.

Which playoff team's coach left in 2021?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:38 am to
I think the BCS was the best format because at least the other bowl games seemed like they meant something.

Now you have a system where ND might get in and the argument will be quality losses and not quality wins
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17215 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:38 am to
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There used to be loyalty to your university and to your state. The players were legitimate amateur athletes who played for the love of the game and for the love of their state/university.


This is some serious rose-colored glasses. Teams have been buying players for a seriously long time. Do you seriously believe SMU's Pony Express days were a one-off that ended in the 80s with them?

If you want to watch players who play solely for the love of the game, you should become a fan of FCS and especially D2 football. Because that hasn't been a thing in P5 FBS football for a long time. These guys are playing with the goal of going to the NFL. Why do you think so many guys have always dipped after 3 years? It's because they want to get paid. Players have always wanted to get paid, that's not a recent development.

Lastly, I don't think you realize that the only reason players were playing all 3-5 years at a university was because they essentially had no choice. Plenty of guys would have loved to transfer elsewhere if they had the choice. You're a Bama fan. I'm sure you know while there are former players who always come back, publicly support the program, etc. There's other players who have not worn the colors, haven't returned to Tuscaloosa a single time, nor have they said a single Roll Tide since the day they graduated/left for the league.
Alot of these guys never truly loved the state or their university, it was a necessary stepping stone to get them where they wanted to go next.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466272 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:50 am to
The 4-team playoff fractured the sport and Covid basically killed it and created something entirely different.

The NIL/Free transfer era + 12-team playoff is just gross.

This Kiffin saga is almost the perfect story to show how unbelievably terrible this new sport is. If we still had the BCS era Kiffin would be coaching his team until they were out of contention, possibly even in a BCS bowl. Pushing the schedule back so far with the completely retarded 12-team playoff means that your transfer period will occur during the playoffs (due to scheduling for the spring semester).

It simply doesn't work
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170700 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:54 am to
I think they should have capped the expansion to 8 teams. Not being a power of 2 and allowing byes is just stupid.
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