re: Just how impressive was Dan Marino's 1984 campaign?

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I think we are still arguing the point that Montana dragged an average team to the Conf championship. when Montana had a below average year

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Stats don’t tell the whole story

Marino had the quickest release too.

Greatest arm in the history of the game. He was fun to watch and deserved a SB ring but sadly never got one. That 1984 season was legendary at the time. It took 24 years for another QB to do it and it also took rule changes to make it happen.

It would be like a QB throwing for 5700yds today.

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All I ever said was that when you compare the best of the best of the best to ever play the game you’re going to have to split hairs to separate them and while it’s not completely fair, team success does factor into it considering nobody on the field has a more direct impact on every single play more than the quarterbacks. When you compare Marino’s accomplishments to others in that class he comes up short.

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Ive always maintained that the 3 most important components of a football team are the QB, offensive line and defensive line. Without those 3, running backs and receivers don't get the ball, quarterbacks can't get enough time to throw, running backs have no room to run, linebackers can't make an impact on the game, and cornerbacks would be obsolete because an offense would gain 5 yards a running play almost every down.

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When you compare Marino’s accomplishments to others in that class he comes up short.

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For the record, who are the people in this class you're referring to?

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pure throwers

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WTF does this mean? Is that like the naturally accurate stupidity some folks like to discuss?

Then say they have a strong arm. Because nobody is natural thrower. They practice it to get every field. Just like accuracy is a practiced thing

There’s no such thing as a pure passer.

I’ve never heard of that term except from people on here and simpleton media types. Ask any QBC OC HC etc. they’ll laugh at you successful passers work hard and don’t just rely on “pure” whatever

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If Montana was simply a product of a system, you would think that system could have been replicated by other teams around the NFL.

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Maybe it's because the designer of the system, Bill Walsh, wasn't on those other teams.

Marino in the draft

This is a classic. "They got to the Super Bowl with a David Woodley at quarterback and they must figure if they can get it out of David Woodley, they think they can get it out of Dan Marino."

I don't know the full story but there were serious questions about Marino's mental makeup leading up to the draft and all the picks he threw his last year at Pitt.

That's why he dropped in the draft.

And there was that drug rumor. Not that he was some hardcore user but a partier at Pitt...this was 1982 and the NFL was just waking up to recreational drugs and it freaked out conservative teams.

The rumor was pervasive and convincing enough that former Steelers coach Chuck Noll admitted in a 1992 Associated Press interview to passing on Marino specifically because of the rumor.

BTW, Marino was the 1st player selected in the USFL draft that year by the Los Angeles Express. Who would then sign Steve Young a year later.