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James Harden - all-time ranking
Posted on 4/8/19 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 4/8/19 at 1:23 pm
With Harden on the verge of back-to-back MVP seasons and given his stats over the past 5 seasons, is there any doubt that Harden has established himself as:
1. The 2nd greatest SG of all-time
2. A top 10 player in NBA history
3. The game’s best player today
1. The 2nd greatest SG of all-time
2. A top 10 player in NBA history
3. The game’s best player today
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 1:31 pm to rollthatback
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1. The 2nd greatest SG of all-time
Posted on 4/8/19 at 1:36 pm to rollthatback
he will be top 15 after he gets his finals mvp this year. He is already top 15 in metrics BPM, per, ws/48 etx. And the wild thing is that he hasn’t even peaked yet.
Posted on 4/8/19 at 1:37 pm to rollthatback
quote:
1. The 2nd greatest SG of all-time
2. A top 10 player in NBA history
lol
quote:
3. The game’s best player today
No but in the argument
Posted on 4/8/19 at 1:40 pm to David Ricky
Harden’s last 3 years are better than Kobe’s best 3 years by VORP
Posted on 4/8/19 at 1:42 pm to rollthatback
quote:
1. The 2nd greatest SG of all-time
quote:
2. A top 10 player in NBA history
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3. The game’s best player today
Posted on 4/8/19 at 1:43 pm to rollthatback
None of those if he doesn't win a ring. I know GS is a huge barrier but to be a top 3 player you have to have a ring.
It's not fair, but it's more fair in basketball than any other sport since there are less players on the court at one time
It's not fair, but it's more fair in basketball than any other sport since there are less players on the court at one time
Posted on 4/8/19 at 1:44 pm to rollthatback
And bird. And magic. Etx etx. Unless you are a lebron or Jordan chances are you compare more than a little unfavorably.
Posted on 4/8/19 at 1:45 pm to rollthatback
James Harden was just awarded two foul shots because of this thread
Posted on 4/8/19 at 1:46 pm to Weagle25
After all the guards who played defense.
West
Frazier
Kobe
Jordan
Cp3
Butler
Kahwi
Lebron
Notice harden never made even 2nd team NBA all d.
West
Frazier
Kobe
Jordan
Cp3
Butler
Kahwi
Lebron
Notice harden never made even 2nd team NBA all d.
This post was edited on 4/8/19 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 4/8/19 at 1:47 pm to rollthatback
prob 30th -38th all time
Posted on 4/8/19 at 1:56 pm to oleyeller
quote:
prob 30th -38th all time
Just another "Gunner".
When I was in 7th grade, guys who shot without conscience, gunners.
Example from my youth:
Paul arizen. Phila warriors. Jump shooter.
Averaged in 20's for career. One NBA champ ring as #2 scorer behind teammate center Neil Johnston.
He was born too soon, before 3 point shot. His whole game was shooting from corner.
Like harden, useless on defense.
Since arizen won a ring (over bill Russell and Bob petit) he's ahead of harden, forever.
Posted on 4/8/19 at 2:00 pm to CelticDog
quote:no dwayne wade.....daaaamn
After all the guards who played defense.
West
Frazier
Kobe
Jordan
Cp3
Butler
Kahwi
Lebron
Notice harden never made even 2nd team NBA all d.
Posted on 4/8/19 at 2:01 pm to rollthatback
The guy is so bad on defense that we have people arguing that he is a good defender now, on the basis of him being good at one thing (post defense). Harden is a bad defender you can hide now, 2 years ago he was an atrocious defender who made no effort. Progress I guess
Posted on 4/8/19 at 2:08 pm to Cocotheape
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The guy is so bad on defense that we have people arguing that he is a good defender now, on the basis of him being good at one thing (post defense). Harden is a bad defender you can hide now, 2 years ago he was an atrocious defender who made no effort. Progress I guess
He has been legitimately good in the post for about two years now. However, I agree with the rest of your points. He is someone that won’t be completely useless when switched on to but the defense is designed for him not work.
Now having said that, who gives a frick that he isn’t an elite defender when he is putting up 36 a night?
Posted on 4/8/19 at 2:20 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:
Now having said that, who gives a frick that he isn’t an elite defender when he is putting up 36 a night?
You'll care more after Houston is excused from the playoff.
Posted on 4/8/19 at 2:22 pm to rollthatback
If he retired today he would be a borderline top 50 player all time. Maybe.
Most likely not.
Give him 5 more years then we can discuss it.
Most likely not.
Give him 5 more years then we can discuss it.
Posted on 4/8/19 at 2:24 pm to rollthatback
Harden has the stats and accolades to be up there with the greatest players of all-time.
The one thing he needs to truly cement his status among the best to ever play is this:
The one thing he needs to truly cement his status among the best to ever play is this:
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