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re: Jameis is going to be a better qb prospect than luck
Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:43 pm to Ross
Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:43 pm to Ross
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I'm honestly not even close to convinced he was the best QB Auburn played this past season
Most of his passes looked like they were floated and he isn't very fast at all.
Luck is the much better athlete as well.
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:43 pm to BigEdLSU
Easy answer. No
Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:44 pm to Ross
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I'm honestly not even close to convinced he was the best QB Auburn played this past season.
Its pretty fair to say that FlA St. would have lost at least 2 games in the SEC...
Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:46 pm to Captain Ron
I think the most overrated thing about him is his "dual threat" ability. He isn't fast and I while he's kind of good at extending plays I think I saw him run the ball once the entire BCSNG where I was like "Those are some nice moves."
I think the level of competition he played this past year made people think of him as this god amongst men and he's really just a good QB that could develop into a great one. But I just don't see him being as good as Luck, either running or passing.
I think the level of competition he played this past year made people think of him as this god amongst men and he's really just a good QB that could develop into a great one. But I just don't see him being as good as Luck, either running or passing.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:48 pm to dukke v
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Its pretty fair to say that FlA St. would have lost at least 2 games in the SEC...
They've got a lot of good talent on both sides of the ball. If they played in the SEC East they would have had some close calls but I don't think they would have lost more than one game. Maybe in the West they'd have lost two, but I don't know.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:53 pm to boom roasted
The main question for me is: Would you stake the success of your team for the next ten years on Jameis Winston? My answer is no. Luck? Yes.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:55 pm to Ross
For the people trashing Jameis, you do realize he is a Freshman, right? 
Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:57 pm to Ross
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I think the most overrated thing about him is his "dual threat" ability. He isn't fast and I while he's kind of good at extending plays I think I saw him run the ball once the entire BCSNG where I was like "Those are some nice moves."
I think the level of competition he played this past year made people think of him as this god amongst men and he's really just a good QB that could develop into a great one. But I just don't see him being as good as Luck, either running or passing.
He was the top dual threat coming out of HS. But he's put on far too much weight. He lumbers around. But as far as this season. No one viewed him as a dual threat QB. Just strictly as a pocket passer. I agree Luck much more athletic. Luck is almost as athletic as Cam.
Jameis needs to get in better shape.
I call BS on the lack of competition. Dude was throwing perfect throws with anticipation into tight windows. We can discuss how good the talent he's playing against. But throws where only the wrs can catch them cant be debated.
Way too much overreaction for 1 game in which both teams have played in a month.
Its funny hearing Auburn fans saying he's overrated. Because most were saying Cam was overrated for his "meh" performance in the NC game. People gave that 1 game too much analysis. Same in the opposite way with Vince Young vs. USC.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:58 pm to TheOcean
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For the people trashing Jameis, you do realize he is a Freshman, right?
Stop being a homer. People aren't trashing. Their saying he isn't a better prospect than luck, which is a huge compliment to even be mentioned with someone like him.
And I also agree with the guy who said he may not have been the best QB auburn faced simply based on his overall performance. This is not saying he's not a great QB, yea he's a redshirt freshman and is a very good QB. Just not one of the greatest ever yet.
That's being honest, not trashing
Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:58 pm to TheOcean
I didn't realize calling him a good QB with the potential to be great was trashing him.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:59 pm to jg8623
Those people misread the OP's title.
Is going to be is a lot different than is.
Is going to be is a lot different than is.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 5:01 pm to TheOcean
quote:If I say he isn't going to be a better prospect than Luck (whatever that means), do you consider that trashing him? You're comparing him to the first "can't miss QB" in a long time.
Is going to be is a lot different than is.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 5:02 pm to jg8623
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And I also agree with the guy who said he may not have been the best QB auburn faced simply based on his overall performance. This is not saying he's not a great QB, yea he's a redshirt freshman and is a very good QB. Just not one of the greatest ever yet.
I still think the layoff + Craig knowing FSU's signals + Jimbo being dumb to not change things.....were all the right ingredients for that performance. I dont blame Auburn at all for that. Jimbo almost cost his team.
With that said.
As a LSU fan, Aaron Murray gave us more problems than Johnny Manziel....does that mean because Murray was better...he's better than Manziel?
Overall I agree that Luck is a better prospect though. More so because he's more athletic and just more polished mechanically.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 5:03 pm to TheOcean
Yea, and with all talks about future, it's all based on personal opinion. If someone thinks he won't be a better prospect that luck, that's not trashing.
Pretty much everyone has said he's a very good QB and will most likely be the # 1 pick when he comes out. What's so bad about that?
Pretty much everyone has said he's a very good QB and will most likely be the # 1 pick when he comes out. What's so bad about that?
Posted on 1/9/14 at 5:05 pm to jg8623
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Pretty much everyone has said he's a very good QB and will most likely be the # 1 pick when he comes out. What's so bad about that?
Idk, if I agree with "Very Good". I'd say 40 tds,4,000 yards passing...Heisman....National Championship...I'd say "great" just me though.
However, Luck is once in a lifetime though. So no shame is falling short of that.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 1/9/14 at 5:09 pm to jg8623
How many college QBs would have been the #1 pick in any year they played?
Posted on 1/9/14 at 5:10 pm to Rittdog
Well Luck is very smart and Jameis is a fricking idiot so....
Posted on 1/9/14 at 5:11 pm to Rittdog
Jameis still has the same big, slow release that he did in HS. He can fix it, but I don't think he's a slam dunk to be a better prospect than Luck, much less even the best of his class.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 5:12 pm to TheOcean
He's clearly not going to be a bigger prospect than luck. I'm not even sure how this is a debate.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 5:19 pm to TheOcean
Since when is saying hes not going to be as good or a better QB prospect than Luck is trashing?? Its not. He measures up extremely well with pretty much all of the other QBs taken early in past years. Just not with Luck.
And thats just because Luck is as good as it can get as a prospect. There have only been a handful of prospects that have garnished the "once in a decade type player", "cant miss prospect" etc. And not all of those guys turn into superstars like everyone thought they would. Luck is 1 of the few guys that was put on that pedestal. And not only did he meet those expectations, he exceeded them IMO. Lucks the only QB that I can think of that could replace Peyton Manning and make the entire team, organization, fanbase,etc. forget about Manning after 1-2 seasons.
And Winston is a redshirt freshman, not a "freshman". Dont make it sound like its his 1st year in college and will get way better in the future. Its his 2nd year in the system, and will most likely be going pro next year. Meaning 1 more season. Its not like hes going to drastically improve from now til then like a true freshman would.
Ocean, who all do you expect to be leaving from FSU this year? Greene, Benjamin, Jernigan, Joyner(SR).... who else?? Actually just curious who will be back with Winston.
You do realize that Luck would have been the #1 pick over Newton if he came out that year? The year before that, Bradford went #1, and Luck would have went ahead of him too.
And thats just because Luck is as good as it can get as a prospect. There have only been a handful of prospects that have garnished the "once in a decade type player", "cant miss prospect" etc. And not all of those guys turn into superstars like everyone thought they would. Luck is 1 of the few guys that was put on that pedestal. And not only did he meet those expectations, he exceeded them IMO. Lucks the only QB that I can think of that could replace Peyton Manning and make the entire team, organization, fanbase,etc. forget about Manning after 1-2 seasons.
And Winston is a redshirt freshman, not a "freshman". Dont make it sound like its his 1st year in college and will get way better in the future. Its his 2nd year in the system, and will most likely be going pro next year. Meaning 1 more season. Its not like hes going to drastically improve from now til then like a true freshman would.
Ocean, who all do you expect to be leaving from FSU this year? Greene, Benjamin, Jernigan, Joyner(SR).... who else?? Actually just curious who will be back with Winston.
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How many college QBs would have been the #1 pick in any year they played?
You do realize that Luck would have been the #1 pick over Newton if he came out that year? The year before that, Bradford went #1, and Luck would have went ahead of him too.
This post was edited on 1/10/14 at 1:23 pm
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