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re: is phelps in your top 5 male athletes in history???

Posted on 8/14/08 at 10:47 pm to
Posted by peckish
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Posted on 8/14/08 at 10:47 pm to
jesse owens or bruce jenner......
Posted by crazyLSUfan
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Posted on 8/14/08 at 11:41 pm to
any top athlete list without Bo Jackson is worthless.

Everybody knows how awesome he was at baseball and football, but did you realize he qualified for the US olympic team for the 60 yard dash, and also played semi-pro basketball in L.A. after his serious hip injury before coming back to play for the Chi Sox in the MLB.

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Posted by TPN - da #1 Stunna
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Posted on 8/15/08 at 12:57 am to
This question has been bouncing around, and given the time frame of the Olympics going on right now and all the media gasbags have to jump on the hottest "story".

He is possibly the greatest Olympian. He is certainly in THAT conversation, but the answer is an emphatic NO!

He is not on a par with:

Jordan
Babe Ruth
Joe Montana
Joe DiMaggio
Mickey Mantle
Ted Williams
Jim Brown
Muhammed Ali
Jerry Rice
Etc, Etc, Etc, Etc.

Don't let the media sway you - they are so into the big "story" of the day . . . like the time they claimed that USC was going for their 3rd straight National Championship.

Six months from now, Michael Phelps will be nowhere to be seen on the landscape. It's swimming. You do it to keep from drowning. Get real.
Posted by GeauxD
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Posted on 8/15/08 at 1:35 am to
No. He certainly is dominant in his sport, but not a top 5 male athlete in history. Id take a decathalon competitor any day over phelps as a greater athlete. now if the question was about most dominating at his sport Id name him 3rd behind Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods.
Posted by TheEdge
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Posted on 8/15/08 at 1:36 am to
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No. He certainly is dominant in his sport, but not a top 5 male athlete in history. Id take a decathalon competitor any day over phelps as a greater athlete. now if the question was about most dominating at his sport Id name him 3rd behind Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods.



He is more dominant than Tiger and Jordan.
Posted by StrongSafety
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Posted on 8/15/08 at 1:40 am to
DOMINANT? YES

BUT THE FACT THAT HE COMPETES IN A WEAK COMPETITION FIELDS DIMINISHES HIS "ELITE" STATUS. HE IS ELITE YES. BUT MJ, RUTH, MONTANA, TIGER ELITE? NO



Posted by BayouKat
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 8/15/08 at 1:40 am to
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Six months from now, Michael Phelps will be nowhere to be seen on the landscape.


Maybe he won't be mentioned as much in the media, but it's not like he won't be doing anything. He's held some of his world records for over 8 years, since he was 15 years old. I think that's a pretty big accomplishment.
Posted by TheEdge
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Posted on 8/15/08 at 1:42 am to
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BUT THE FACT THAT HE COMPETES IN A WEAK COMPETITION FIELDS DIMINISHES HIS "ELITE" STATUS. HE IS ELITE YES. BUT MJ, RUTH, MONTANA, TIGER ELITE? NO


Again since Swimming is objective we can compare his times to swimmers from past years.

7 Medals 7 WRs speaks for itself.
Posted by TigerBandMan
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/15/08 at 2:19 am to
Any guy who can go into a major sporting event and completely dominate without any apparent threat deserves a spot in History. You look at what he does and how he can put numbers on the baord, even after having only a 25 min. break inbetween races. I gurantee you almost no one on this board could swim a 200 m breast sprint, then do it again in less then half an hour. Our asses would be glued to the couch watching ESPN eating junk food.

Long Story short, yes. He is in my top 5, With Tiger Woods, Muhammad Ali... and I can't decide right now the other 2.
Posted by lsu xman
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Posted on 8/15/08 at 2:36 am to
brett favre 3x NFL MVP > 15 gold swimming medals
Posted by lsu xman
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Posted on 8/15/08 at 2:39 am to
those gold medals more dominant than Shaq 00-03'?

2000 -- Shaquille O'Neal, L.A. Lakers
Averaged 38.0 points, 16.7 rebounds and 2.67 blocks to lead the Lakers to a 4-2 victory over the Indiana Pacers and the franchise’s first NBA Championship since 1988. O’Neal’s best Finals performances came at the Staples Center with 43 points, 19 rebounds in Game #1, 40 points, 24 rebounds in Game #2 and 41 points, 12 rebounds in Game #6.

2001 -- Shaquille O'Neal, L.A. Lakers
Averaged 33.0 points, 15.6 rebounds and 3.40 blocks to lead the Lakers to a 4-1victory over the Philadelphia 76ers and the franchise’s second consecutive NBA Championship. O’Neal’s best Finals performances came at the Staples Center with 44 points, 20 rebounds and five assists in Game #1, 28 points, 20 rebounds and nine assists in Game #2 and 34 points, 14 rebounds in Game #4.

2002 -- Shaquille O'Neal, L.A. Lakers
Averaged 36.3 points, 12.3 rebounds and 2.75 blocks to lead the Lakers to a sweep of the New Jersey Nets and the franchise’s third consecutive NBA Championship. O’Neal’s best Finals performances came at the Staples Center with 36 points, 16 rebounds and four blocks in Game #1, 40 points, 12 rebounds and eight assists in Game #2, 35 points, 11 rebounds and four blocks in Game #3.
Posted by lsu xman
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Posted on 8/15/08 at 2:42 am to
Roger Federer (pronounced /ˈrɒdʒə ˈfɛdərər/[1]; born August 8, 1981) is a Swiss professional tennis player, ranked World No. 1 for a record 237 consecutive weeks.

Federer has won twelve Grand Slam singles titles (three Australian Open, five Wimbledon, four US Open), four Tennis Masters Cup titles, and fourteen ATP Masters Series titles. Federer holds many records in the game, including having appeared in ten consecutive Grand Slam men's singles finals (2005 Wimbledon Championships through the 2007 US Open) and 17 consecutive Grand Slam singles semifinals (2004 Wimbledon - present). He also holds the open era records for consecutive wins on both grass courts (65) and hard courts (56).
Posted by lynxcat
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Posted on 8/15/08 at 5:10 am to
It is too hard to compare 'athletic' ability.

If you are going purely off how great of an 'ATHLETE' a person is, then most on the list will be basketball players. Basketball easily requires the most 'athletic' people in the world.

Pro-football players and the top couple tennis players in history also display obscene amounts of athleticism.

As far as swimming goes, Phelps' body is made for it. He is as good as it gets.

My top 5 (quickly off the top of my head...in no particular order):
Michael Phelps
Lebron James
Michael Jordan
Roger Federer
Herschel Walker

I'm solid on the first 4 I listed. I'm not completely sold on Walker, but he is coming to mind at this point.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 8/15/08 at 5:27 am to
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what else does he have to do????
Play a sport.
Posted by MakeMoney
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Posted on 8/15/08 at 6:16 am to
Your a fricken idiot with Arod at 1. Are you serious???? I think I would put Deon Sanders ahead of Arod as a better "Athlete". Football/Baseball/Unbelievable Speed. Phelps has to be in your top five. How old are you 12? You sound like those kids in the Little League World Series that 90% of the team's favorite player is either Derek Jeter or Arod. Lose the man-crush goggles. Give me a break. Arod is way down the list.
This post was edited on 8/15/08 at 6:18 am
Posted by lsugolf1105
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Posted on 8/15/08 at 7:09 am to
quote:

definitely has to be...


where is spitz on your list?
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
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Posted on 8/15/08 at 7:54 am to


quote:

Michael Phelps will be nowhere to be seen on the landscape.


Definitely not. He'll be in commercials and ads all over the place.

quote:

It's swimming. You do it to keep from drowning. Get real.



That's a really stupid argument. It's football, what do you do it for? Basketball? Baseball?
Posted by Me4Heisman
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Posted on 8/15/08 at 8:12 am to
How the hell can someone list a freaking BASEBALL player in the top 5 greatest athletes ever?

Also, how the hell can someone put Mike Tyson in that list when he isn't even in the top 10 boxers of all time?

Dumbasses...
This post was edited on 8/15/08 at 8:24 am
Posted by geauxswim
Member since Dec 2007
83 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:06 am to
My top 5:
1. Michael Phelps
2. Lance Armstrong
3. Herschel Walker
4. Ted Williams
5. Wayne Gretzky

Carl Lewis and Michael Johnson are basically tied for 5, really.

And I love the people talking about how Phelps has no competition at these Olympics....you people watch swimming for one week every 4 years and are suddenly experts on the sport. It's hysterical. Go back to drooling over 17 year old high school recruits who come to your school to play a game. Leave the talking about actual sports to people who know about actual sports.
Posted by TheFlankShaker
Member since Sep 2005
218 posts
Posted on 8/15/08 at 9:18 am to
I'm with lsugolf1105.

Phelps has not even broken Spitz record yet, so why isn't Spitz on anyone's list of top athletes in history???

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